Super Familiar with The Wilsons

Ghost Tours, Chilling Tiny Tales, and Give Us Advice

April 29, 2021 The Wilsons Season 2 Episode 18
Super Familiar with The Wilsons
Ghost Tours, Chilling Tiny Tales, and Give Us Advice
Show Notes Transcript

BOO! Did I scare you? There's a small chance that this episode will be too scary (I doubt it) but, just in case you're frightened by rambling descriptions of people from long ago who were all named Mary...here's your warning. We talk about our ghost tour in St. Augustine..then we creep into two sentence scary stories...and then run screaming to amusing headstones and obituaries...and then, spent and weeping, stagger over to our new segment "Give Us Advice", where we wonder "How can I Get Groceries Without Breaking the Bank?"

Opening music "Super Familiar" and closing music "Wilson Suite"  by Josh Wilson.
"Out and About" by Daniel Wilson (with Lyrics from Josh Wilson) - Find Daniel at bandcamp.com/danielwilsongnv

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Josh Wilson:

Our friend Nate does a scary podcast. So this is our version.

Amanda Wilson:

Let's go.

Josh Wilson:

This is super familiar with the Wilsons. I'm Josh, and I'm an innocent victim.

Amanda Wilson:

I'm Amanda and it was all my idea.

Josh Wilson:

So we're gonna do some scary stories, right now talk a little bit about that. And then we're going to get into our new and very exciting give us advice segment. And then we are going to give you our recommendations. How does that sound for a plan?

Amanda Wilson:

Sounds good to me.

Josh Wilson:

And Amanda is going to try really hard to keep her mouth right in front of the microphone. So

Amanda Wilson:

me in front of the microphone.

Josh Wilson:

I've said before that there are several things that we don't do right about podcasting. And it's shocking to me that we have as many episodes as we have, and we have as many listens as we have. Because we don't do any of this right.

Amanda Wilson:

Listen, there is a well followed podcast that I shall not be naming that I really was interested in the content of really wanted to listen to and could not do it. And you could maybe only sustained it for about 10 seconds when I tried to play it for you because it was an interview that clearly was done over zoom or something during quarantine. And you could not hear the person who was being interviewed, you could hear the host. And then I have to turn up really loud to hear the person who was being interviewed. And then I would forget that it was about time for the person to start talking and then it would Blair and so I mean, I understand the point of being in front of my microphone, but we never sound that bad. I'm sure people can still hear me I'm sure then off the turn it all the way up.

Josh Wilson:

Let's just then agree to disagree and move on with our content.

Amanda Wilson:

So we had a big birthday.

Josh Wilson:

Before we do that I have lit Litton lighted,

Amanda Wilson:

lidded, you lit

Josh Wilson:

I've turned on the incense. We do have incense wafting. And now again, I like incense,

Amanda Wilson:

turn on the incense.

Josh Wilson:

So we light the incense to keep us calm. And if we're calm, you're calm. And then you go ahead and you talk to our Amazon device and stress me out because I'm thinking now am I going to edit that out? I really don't want to have to edit to

Amanda Wilson:

that people understand. They understand the struggle. I don't talk to her. Well, she doesn't listen to me. This is a problem. Who gendered Alexa?

Josh Wilson:

I don't know. But please stop saying that that name while we're near one of those units. That is not compelling. Actually. That is interesting though. I wonder if you're listening to us right now in your in your home in your place of work. I wonder if I could order your Amazon device to do something.

Amanda Wilson:

It happened to me the other day I was watching Zoe's infinite Nope. Not infinite. Zoe's extraordinary playlist and the character mill whom I love with my whole heart. This might be my wreck. asked that device to start his spa routine in the Alexa on my desk said starting spa routine and then started playing the lovely music. So it happened from the television because I it was it was on my computer.

Josh Wilson:

Okay, but this is what I'm going to do for you right now. I'm going to I'm going to set this up for you ready? Hold this really close to your Amazon device. Ready? Alexa, Subscribe to Super familiar with the Wilson's on amazon music.

Amanda Wilson:

Do you hear that? Yeah, so he muted though the one that's in the room with us. The one upstairs in the loft is now responding to swear. Maybe they're hunted? Maybe they're on the brief for tonight's episode. Alright, so

Josh Wilson:

speaking of things haunted, Amanda, what do you bring into us? Now I want

Amanda Wilson:

to talk about ghost. More and more specifically want to talk about ghost tour tours. So I don't I don't like ghost. I don't know many people who do but I think that our friend Nate probably does. I know Joshua had this conversation frequently where I asked where we talk about not frequently, but often enough, where we try to maybe get to the heart of what we think is behind the belief in the supernatural and in spirits and things and I grew up in a tradition of faith that believed in demons and angels. And so that was the thing that I was mostly scared of. I mean, I there was a lot of talk about demonic forces when I was growing up and so I have a healthy fear of the I started to say extraterrestrial What is it called?

Josh Wilson:

She has a healthy fear et

Amanda Wilson:

Well, no, that's that's one of the two supernatural that's I already said this. Okay.

Josh Wilson:

I will add to that, that I grew up in a Judeo Christian upbringing as well, very evangelical, and and one book series that was very popular. Was this present darkness by Frank peretti. I

Amanda Wilson:

read all of the Frank peretti books and I remember a scene about the demon clutched onto the person who was walking into church and trying to drag them back out of the door. Yes. Oh, yeah. No, I read the Frank peretti books.

Josh Wilson:

So as you read them? Of course I did. Are you kidding that that was as close to horror as I was allowed to read. And since then, I've come to not believe in the supernatural, spooks and demons and all these things. And so I absolutely 1,000,000,000% do not believe in ghosts,

Amanda Wilson:

right. So we've had this conversation, and I grew up my brother died of brain cancer. And I was 11. Shortly after he died. I was 11. And I, the answer the phone at the house, it was his dad, and his dad said to me, oh, I saw your brother today. I thought he meant my other brother. And he said, No, I saw your brother, I looked in the mirror, and he was standing behind me. So for a very, I was 11 people. These are not things you say to 11 year old children. So for a very long time, I had a hard time sleeping in a room with a mirror in it. Unless it was completely dark or completely lit. If there was just a little bit that I could see in a mirror. I couldn't I could not do it.

Josh Wilson:

So do you believe in ghosts?

Amanda Wilson:

Well, here's the thing. I don't believe in ghosts, I believe in our brain's ability to freak us out and make us perceive things as being real.

Josh Wilson:

I believe in that there's the story that we've told before about both of us being scared blank lis Yes, by a what turned out to be a balloon by the side of our bed, and both of us thinking that it was something else. So this is I believe in supernatural, only in so much as I believe in balloons next to our bed.

Amanda Wilson:

Right? Well, but See, the thing is, I believe in your brain's ability to make it so real, that it doesn't matter to me if it's actually real, real or not. It's still scary. You know what I'm saying? It's still the same effect if you were actually the same, I

Josh Wilson:

believe I believe that. But the X factor here is whether reality is it, you know, has has a part to play in this where at some point we can realize, Oh, I was being silly. There's no such thing. That's just a doll. It's not Chucky, or or whatever. So,

Amanda Wilson:

okay, so Josh had a birthday. And we went away. And it was the first time in at least a few years that we have had a night alone. And we went to St. Augustine, if you're from the area or know anything, it's the oldest city in the United States, and purportedly the most haunted, and we went on a two hour lantern lit walking ghost tour. Now, this is a thing that I would have thought I would never ever do. When I was in high school. I went to tear on Church Street. Josh, were you aware of tear on Church Street?

Josh Wilson:

No, for those of you who are from Miami, it might be our version of the campus life haunted house. Whoa, no, no, I participated in

Amanda Wilson:

No, that's the one where if it's like abortion or drugs, they make you feel bad about it like that, like the hell house or the like, you gotta you got to pray at the end of it.

Josh Wilson:

Oh, no, no, I didn't know why. But Campus Life haunted house had like the King Kong room and stuff.

Amanda Wilson:

Okay, tear on Church Street was a multi story warehouse in downtown Orlando, that had this theatrical haunted house. And this was early to mid 90s. And so it was kind of a new thing. I mean, this was before Halloween Horror Nights. And all, you know, like really big special effects. Things had come over from the UK. And it was this this experience. And so I went with some friends. Halfway through. I mean, I was like, had the shirt of the guy in front of me had my eyes closed and was saying the Lord's Prayer throughout the whole thing.

Josh Wilson:

Oh, I was just joy.

Amanda Wilson:

I was just muttering I probably was all the way through. So then they take you into this room, and they say, Okay, this is halfway through, and it's going to only get worse. Like Roman piano pants. People vomit. Like if you want out now.

Josh Wilson:

People vomit. What are they doing?

Amanda Wilson:

Various carrying on it out. If you went out now is the time and I raised my hand and said me please. And no one else agreed to go. They all tried to talk me out. It was like nope, I'm leaving. They opened a door. I walked out they shut the door behind me and I was alone in a back alley and downtown Orlando close to midnight.

Josh Wilson:

Did you continue to say that it's

Amanda Wilson:

more dangerous. No ran much more dangerous than anything that would have happened to me in the haunted house, but I could not handle it. So the fact that I willingly booked a ghost to her and said please, let's go on this ghost tour. was shocking. Josh agreed to go on this ghost tour. So going into it What was your expectation for the ghost tour

Josh Wilson:

going into it I was expecting for someone to to give us the history of the city and that ended in someone's death. Sometimes I'm most of the time tragic. And then them to say, Okay, take a picture and you're gonna see, you might see the ghosts in the picture because the ghosts are still around. So pretty much what I expected is kind of what we got.

Amanda Wilson:

I will say this about ghosts, so I wasn't at all scared. To be fair, it wasn't presented in a scary way. It was it was very conversational. It was a small ish tour 10 to 15 people.

Josh Wilson:

The scariest thing about the tour is that no one else is wearing masks, but it's true.

Amanda Wilson:

The real danger the guide was very nice. We learned some interesting stories, but really a ghost to her is and I actually found an article today from a reputable newspaper that said that why you should go and ghost tour ghost tours is to learn the history of a place. And we heard the guide saying it happened to be her first tour. And she had been shadowing and like I guess, in turn to word, but this was her first by herself. And she said that the the training for the tour wasn't the hard part. But the hard part was taking the history test. Did you have to exhaustively know the history of the city. That's really interesting. And so this was a good way to learn some history of the city. We learned some interesting story is the one that I was the most taken with was Ida Alice, who was the second wife of Henry Flagler. Now if you know anything about Henry Flagler, he was a railroad tycoon. And he made a lot of money in New York and he his first wife, Mary, was ill and this actress who wasn't doing very well wasn't wasn't really going places became her nurse. That was Ada Alice and when Mary died Ida Alice became the second Mrs. Flagler. Now we don't know if Ida Alice and Mr. Flagler were hooking up before Mary the first because there was a myriad the third passed away or if it was after, but Ida Ida and Mr. Flagler started traveling down to Florida because Mrs. Flagler the second got ill and this was a place where you came to convalesce or no, no, that maybe that was the first one. And she went back up and never got better. Listen, there were some flaggers to the main Mary. So anyway, I know Alice is here. She loves Florida. She thinks St. Augustine is great. She's really into Palm Beach though, like she's in South Florida. I learned from my research here. What happens is that I to Alice, like some of the women of this time were really into spiritual lism and got into the Weegee and got into the Sands's. And the Weegee board told it to Alice that she was to marry the Tsar of Russia. So she is going to be czarina of Russia yet the Tsar was only like 14 at the time, and she was maybe in our 30s. What we heard on the tour is that she started talking to people about the spiritualism and Mr. Flagler didn't like this and he sent her away to a sanatorium, then she came back and I'm going to be better and I'm not going to do that anymore. And I started getting bored again because the man traveled a lot. So she got the the wiggio board back out and she started doing this again. This is what prompted her being sent away to New York and never to return she lived out her days until 1930. And this fancy, it's like the Betty Ford clinic fancy sanatorium. Now what I have since learned is that she also thought that Mr. Flower was cheating on her and was spreading that rumor around. Mr. Flagler had been catching the interest of a another young woman named Mary who was significantly much younger than he was. And so he wanted to be able to get divorced from Aida Alice and so he went to the Florida Legislature and pushed through because of lobbying and the people the flag or divorce law. So here now we can get divorced because the flag would divorce law considers lunacy as a ground for grounds for divorce. There is a the New York but

Josh Wilson:

apparently not grounds for impeachment,

Amanda Wilson:

no. New York evening world June 3 1902. And there is a full page ad insane Mrs. Flagler in Francis Wilson's home, Mrs. Flagler and the home she occupies. So this is where she is now. May 10 1900. Tampa weakly Miss Flagler is demented period Standard Oil magnate burdened by wife's estate period petitions court for relief says the woman is insane and then he wants someone else to care for her he desires to reside in Florida in peace. So she goes away she never comes back. he marries Mary Lily Flagler who is significantly younger than he was. And it is said now that Ida Alice haunts the girls dorms at Flagler College and that she she's just got these wild eyes and she stares at them when they wake up or they do the Bloody Mary thing. Although she was the only one not Mary named Mary. I don't know why she would come back to Florida to do this. I would be haunting The people who were spouting out that I was crazy when maybe it really wasn't about me. There are a couple things. Mary Ashley was the daughter of flower second cousin and his divorce lawyer. And she had this travel companion Mary Lily, everybody was named Mary apparently in the late 1800s. So this is where Henry met her. He also had a neighbor named Mary Alice Pomeroy and they were all friends. He married Mary Lily, Mary Lily dies. Then Jesse has a daughter, Jasmine who Jessie is she's somebody not named Mary. And it's, it's it's rumored that maybe this was floggers love child but the reason I'm bringing this person to you is because her name is Mary Louise wise Louis Louis Francis. You're laughing at me because I'm rambling in this story. But I had to get to Mary Louise wise Lewis Lewis Francis, do we think that the Palm Beach social diary where I got this from typed Louis twice? Or do we think her name is actually Mary Louise Louis Louis Francis. Anyway, that to me was the most frightening of the tales. But I really think what's more frightening is the control that men had over women's sanity in the late 1800s.

Josh Wilson:

Wait, can you tell me that again?

Amanda Wilson:

newsgroups. I just had the word script. Nothing too bad. So I wasn't scared. I expected to go back scared that night. I wasn't scared was that were there any stories that scared you?

Josh Wilson:

No, but I have found on on the internet. Two sentence horror stories. Now I want to throw some of these at you here and see shorter

Amanda Wilson:

than the one that I just told you is what you're saying. Oh,

Josh Wilson:

my God, by the way. I mean, I love you with my whole heart, but wow. Okay, so I'm gonna read these. You tell me if any of these creeped you out? Okay, actually, we're gonna do this. Hang on. Let me turn some lights off.

Amanda Wilson:

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, God, no, I am sitting in the dark.

Josh Wilson:

Okay, so two sentence horror stories. And I mean, you might find some of these scary reasons and some not ready? No. There was a picture in my phone of me sleeping. I live alone.

Amanda Wilson:

what's crazy is this voice right?

Josh Wilson:

Here's one running. Yes. My sister says that mommy killed her. Mommy says I don't have a sister.

Unknown:

Okay, that's

Josh Wilson:

I can't move, breathe, speak. or hear. And it's so dark all the time. If I knew that it would be this lonely. I would have been cremated instead.

Amanda Wilson:

Oh, no. I don't like that. That is awful. Make that stop that was more than two sentences.

Josh Wilson:

No, that was that was just two sentences.

Amanda Wilson:

Were there a lot of ellipses? No,

Josh Wilson:

no ellipses called lots of commas. Growing up with pets, I got used to the sounds of scratching at my door while I slept. Now that I live alone is so much more unsettling

Amanda Wilson:

than the ghost of your pets trying to get back in. I swear if you use this voice while I'm sleeping, I'm moving out.

Josh Wilson:

I woke up to here knocking on the glass. First, I thought it was the window until I heard it again. come from the mirror.

Amanda Wilson:

Oh no. See, I don't do mirrors was wrong with you. You are rude.

Josh Wilson:

She asked Why? She said I've got a whole different story in my mind from this one. She asked why I was breathing so heavily. I wasn't just like a different funny story. Oh, here's a really creepy one. Last one. I can't sleep she whispered. crawling into bed with me. I woke up cold clutching the dress she was buried in El. So there you go. Two sentence horror stories.

Amanda Wilson:

I hate all of the things you've done. Now, I will say that while we were on this tour, there were people who thought that they had captured some evidence of the this books, the specters that things mostly by taking pictures and when you looked at the picture, and Josh did this actually having orbs, you've heard this thing of the orbs.

Josh Wilson:

So this is a common thing with ghost tours and they know that they're going to be these these orbs in the in the picture. So that's why they do it.

Amanda Wilson:

Yeah. And so I we saw them and it was really interesting because there was a place where there was a really compelling story about a man who was killed. Lynne and Natalie, which by the way, right behind our hotel, like actual hotel room, not just the hotel, and they there were three or four pictures that all had the same looking kind of like lights in the sky. So I googled it ghost orbs debunked. So I'm sorry, if you've been on a ghost tour, and you have your orbs, and they're very exciting for you, it can look very shocking. It's very interesting. But really, it's dust pollen in Zach's drops of liquid in the air, or foreign material on or within the camera lens. Now, when we're taking pictures with camera, with camera phones, probably not something in the camera, maybe something on your lens, but when you've got everybody getting the same picture, it's probably one of those things and they always tell you to take it with the flash on and they tell you to angle the camera up because that's where the orbs go up in the sky, but that's also where you're going to catch some missed in some light reflection.

Josh Wilson:

There's nothing like the laughter of a baby. Unless it's 1am in your home alone.

Amanda Wilson:

Okay, you always said that you thought it would be creepy if you just heard the baby laughing in the room and I don't find that creepy. Like three year old kids creepy, baby. Yeah, but if he was just entertaining if you don't own

Josh Wilson:

a baby,

Amanda Wilson:

I think Well, I mean, let's not say own but if you don't have a baby, yes. Okay. So the phenomenon of orbs is increased with body worn cameras in going from film to digital and being taken with your phone. So sorry to break it to your friends. And what's really interesting is that this article is by a ghost tour company. And they're like, we're not gonna lie to you. And it's in Colonial Williamsburg its colonial ghost, and they're saying, you know, this is just the this is the fun of it. This is what that is we do believe in spirits but we're not going to lie to you and tell you that's what it is. You're taking pictures of dust.

Josh Wilson:

Put back the mirrors. We miss watching you

Amanda Wilson:

know, putting duct tape over my camera on my computer too.

Josh Wilson:

They delivered the mannequins in bubble wrap from the main room. I begin to hear popping

Amanda Wilson:

Okay, well that's just because some kid has gone in there and pop the bubbles okay. You I want you to know dear friends, your listening audience. He's going to do this for the rest of the night. You're going to be gone and I'm still going to be hearing these stories.

Josh Wilson:

You start to drift off into a comfortable sleep when you hear your name being whispered you live alone

Amanda Wilson:

Okay, see a lot of these things is about you living alone but hearing all of these things so I'm not into this I so the the very end of our ghost tour ended at the cemetery. And so they were telling some stories about some soldiers that mess with people when they're standing by the gate and they tie the girls apron or not apron or whatever, to the apron like it's 1800s to the fence post. So I started thinking about tombstones, and I looked up 30 funny tombstones now. Not all of them are funny, but Janet m from Texas has a tombstone and it's one of those there's there's you know, husband and wife or partner's tombstones, so on. Oh, this

Josh Wilson:

is hilarious so far on

Amanda Wilson:

just her side. So she was born January 17 1940. Died October 15 2013. Underneath the date says if you can read this you were standing on my boobs.

Josh Wilson:

Is that real?

Amanda Wilson:

Yeah, it's a Yeah. It's real. My favorite though is make it to it. It's it's k Ks tombstone is the recipe for Ks fudge. What to square chocolate two tablespoons butter about aloha freaking

Josh Wilson:

brilliant.

Amanda Wilson:

Stir in one cup help bring to boil three cups sugar, one tablespoon vanilla pinch, salt, soft, cooked a soft ball stage, pour a marble slab cool and be at eat wherever she goes. There's laughter

Josh Wilson:

that's great. I love that. That's very good. See, that's what I want. I want something funny because not gonna be around to care so much. It'll be funny.

Amanda Wilson:

So speaking of funny, I went from heads from tombstones to funny obituaries.

Josh Wilson:

So I have a couple of boys this Yeah, we are absolutely full of the chuckles today obituaries headstones

Amanda Wilson:

yeah I've never written an obituary but they usually lovingly filled with this person did this and this and this and there's if I buy this, this and this. Scott he and singer who is a big Cleveland Browns fan. Are you laughing at me trying to say his last name? No, I'm

Josh Wilson:

just laughing at his last name. Go ahead.

Amanda Wilson:

his obituary ended with he respectfully request six Cleveland Browns pallbearers so the Browns can let him down one last

Josh Wilson:

time. Excellent. That's good

Amanda Wilson:

all Patterson. Now that I have gotten to my reward, I have confessions and things I should now say. As it turns out, I am the guy who took the safe and the motor view drive and back in 1971 I could have left that unsaid but I wanted to get it off my chest. Also, I really am not a PhD. What happened was that the day I went to pay off my college student loan at the University of you, the girl working there, put my receipt into the wrong stack. And two weeks later, a PhD diploma came in the mail. I didn't even graduate, I only had about three years of college credit. In fact, I never did. I never did even learn with the letters PhD stood for.

Josh Wilson:

That's good.

Amanda Wilson:

So God bless Val who got a PhD in the mail and just pretended like he wasn't the guy who stole the safe, but he was the guy who had a PhD.

Josh Wilson:

And now's the time where we let you know that this podcasting thing, we're only in it for ourselves.

Amanda Wilson:

Like that story I just told you, it's really for

Josh Wilson:

now, give us advice. That's right. Our question for last week was how can we not spend our entire paycheck on our groceries now this is a real problem in our household one that we are trying to solve. We just we need to figure out a way not to go to Publix, to our local Publix and then come home penniless with lots more mail than any human being should possibly have. So Amanda, we put that question out there have we gotten any advice

Amanda Wilson:

we have we we've gotten actually really good advice but I want to go ahead and address the mayo comment not my fault when it goes Bogo. So what we have done we do instacart because during the pandemic that felt safer than taking all the kids out of the house. I did used to wipe down everything with Clorox wipes but then got over that once the CDC came out with probably contact not not something we need to worry about. So I'm paying a monthly $10 instacart fee. So don't have to pay delivery however I do have to tip I don't have to but I do because that's what you should do on the for the service industry. And then I still I thought it was going to keep me from just buying all the random stuff in the grocery store but I still do that I just do it virtually. So here are the here are the things that we have found. The number one thing I found is that we are not alone. So many people responded with when you figure it out, share it with us. We had people talk about switching from instacart to Walmart delivery and it being a lot cheaper our friend Holly from broccoli boxes which checkout broccoli boxes, they do great kids sensory kits. Our four year old loves his Solar System one, but Holly gave us the advice of switching to Walmart delivery and it was a lot less expensive. She said she missed the instacart options, but I mean it was just a way to save so we appreciate that. A lot of other people talked about Aldi and I don't know do you guys shop at Aldi Josh, what do you feel about Aldi?

Josh Wilson:

I don't know that much about Aldi, it just feels like a warehouse where you go and get food.

Amanda Wilson:

Well, that and that feels very accurate. I think that their wine and cheese deals are good. Their produce to me always feels like it's just on the edge of going bad. It's unlike the bad side of going bad. What I understand is that if you have busier all these the produce is better because the turnover is high. This is what I learned for some people from some people today. Their proteins I was a little scared about but somebody said that they actually tried them and they were good and that they were trimmed better than Publix that our local grocery store meat was so that's something I definitely want to try don't like bringing home the the meat and then still having to trim it. I do absolutely believe in shopping local McCann we've got a great local store wards across town, they absolutely have the best prices on produce and protein. It's just not. I mean, I hate to say it's not convenient and so I really do need to make more of an effort to do that. Are you seeing anything in the great responses we got that stood out to us something we might want to try?

Josh Wilson:

Well, someone suggested fasting.

Amanda Wilson:

Now that was you and what I find really funny about that is that you say I'm not going to eat today I'm going to fast so I just plan something for the children and then eat like a veggie burgers and then myself and then you come home and start opening the refrigerator. What do we have to eat and then you want to be eating like half a bag of cheese. So this this fasting thing doesn't actually put a dent in my in my wallet or no in my savings it puts a dent in my wallet. I have heard that target pickup is better than instacart that's something that I certainly can try because taking the children into target just means that I buy cars from Disney Pixar Cars and like makeup and stuff so but I got A really great response from a friend of mine, Kathy and I asked her if I could share, she responded to me in an inbox message and said, I have so much more than can fill up one comment. I think I'm gonna, you know, I've been I think I need to write a book. She gave me such great advice. she messaged me on an awful afternoon. I told her I'm waiting for the book. But basically what it boils down to is meal planning. And I think that's where we fall down, because we try to meal plan. But then you come home and say, I want wings. I want ribs or I say, I had a stressful day, screw it. I don't care. Let's eat pizza. And so we don't stick with it. So meal planning is really a huge thing. It's also difficult for us because we have so many different diet needs and wants in this house. We have two people with differing food allergies. One with lactose intolerance. One who is gluten free to vegetarians, well, that is hearing one or more eat some chicken. You who is the opposite of whatever vegetarian is who just wants the protein. And I'm trying to count calories and and who knows what the four year old wants to eat. So that's a really difficult thing to kind of deal with.

Josh Wilson:

Okay, if you rewind and go back, apparently 10 people live in our house.

Amanda Wilson:

No, because everybody has different did you actually count 10 people I did, because some of some, like the gluten free one is also a veggie.

Josh Wilson:

Okay, so so what you missed folks is the Venn diagram. Because otherwise there's there's 10 people living in this tiny house, and I just don't know where they are.

Amanda Wilson:

I do their laundry. So I'm sure that they're here. The other thing is, she told me to make out like a graph basically, of people and their restrictions and the things they like, and then yeah, I got to make a Venn diagram for Okay, we have this amount of people here tonight, and in on this night, we're going to have these things. Also, another really good idea was shopping your freezer and pantry first. So before you go to the grocery store, shop, your pantry, shop your freezer, see what you have, and then fill in and I think that's a really great tip.

Josh Wilson:

I agree. What else? What else did she say?

Amanda Wilson:

She's saying we're thinking right now. Um, things for our family things like buffet, so doing like a fajita buffet or taco buffet, or, you know, something where we can get the vegetarians and we can get the protein and we can get the cards people who want it. Those seem to make sense for doing that. I also have another friend who wrote in and said that they do three weeks of regular and then one week of only eating what's in the pantry and in the freezer and then that does help save money. And so we got really great response. I appreciate everybody who wrote in with the exception of fasting and eating less not helpful. I want it there. I've got some really good ideas I want to try and I will let you know how they go.

Josh Wilson:

Okay, so what is our question for next week? Amanda Wilson,

Amanda Wilson:

our question for the next week is DIY worth it or not?

Josh Wilson:

The slightly longer version of that question is as follows. Should we put in the the pavers in the backyard ourselves? Or should we have a professional do it? Alright, ready On your mark, get set, go. Gonna give you our recommendations gonna give you our recommendations. Gonna give you our recommendations. Gonna gonna do it do it now.

Amanda Wilson:

Thank you for that. I didn't know we had a new song. So my wreck today I teased it a little bit earlier is always exceptional. Snow cod's always extraordinary playlists. I typed Zoe's exceptional playlist into Google to be able to get the cast up. I'm sleeping.

Josh Wilson:

Can I point out that you've already wrecked this on a past podcast? Have I? Yes.

Amanda Wilson:

Can I just wreck Alex Newell this time?

Unknown:

Yes.

Amanda Wilson:

Alex Newell is a fabulous actor and singer plays Moe is the highlight of the show for me and also the one who can talk to my Alexa. So get yourself some Alex Newell. Get yourself some Mel. Let him talk to your Alexa.

Josh Wilson:

Alright, so I don't have any recommendations for this week.

Amanda Wilson:

Apparently just recycle one.

Josh Wilson:

Yeah, watch watch Captain America on on TV and movies. Alright, so that'll do us for this week. Thank you for joining us. I would hope that next week, we will see you back here again. In the meantime, hit us up on Twitter, on Facebook, on Instagram, on all of the things

Amanda Wilson:

and let us know if we should try to install the papers ourselves. Or if that's going to mean that one of us will just be trapped under heavy things and this will become a solo show.

Josh Wilson:

So until we see and hear and speak to you again, be kind to each other

Amanda Wilson:

and yourselves by and maybe they go

Josh Wilson:

Alright, so until next week, be kind to each other. No, it's Be kind to each other because that's the more obvious and then be kind to yourself. So, okay, until next week, be kind to each other,

Amanda Wilson:

and yourself. No. We're bad. We should not bad