Nate Knows Horror| E42: Super Familiar with The Wilsons

Super Familiar with The Wilsons: A chat show for the rest of us. This week, we welcome Nate from A Scary Home Companion Podcast, who tells us how he got into the scary podcast game, where evil might come from...and spiders, lots of spiders...with babies. Baby spiders...crawling all over.

He offers chills, thrills...and then embarrasses Josh in a game about horror movies. I don't consider this a spoiler, because, of course Josh loses a game. If you listen to our earlier podcast, when we had games, Josh had a fighting chance...he even won, occasionally. And then Amanda took over the games...

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:00

Imagineville Podcast Network.

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The Wilsons get creepy. We sit down with Nate from a scary home companion podcast and we talk it out. Let's go. Welcome to Super Familiar with the Wilsons. I'm Josh.

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I'm Amanda.

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And we are so happy to have a guest today. It's been a little bit of time since we've had a guest, but we are thrilled to have Nate from A Scary Home Companion. How you doing, Nate?

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I'm doing very well. Thank you for having me, Wilsons.

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A Scary Home Companion is a podcast on our network. It's existed for how long?

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Two years. Just over two years.

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And doing quite well.

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More or less better every month. A very slow start. The first year was pretty rough, but I've started building momentum. So yeah, right now I think I'm doing pretty well.

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So have you had to give the elevator pitch for your podcast?

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It is an original storytelling podcast. Every episode is its own story, so you can start listening anywhere. But the more you listen, the more you realize all the stories are in the same world. They're in the same universe. Events... And characters and plot lines start to bleed through from one episode into the next. The more you listen to it, the more you will get out of it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:30

And for those who might just want to tune in now, you did just recently do sort of like a little here's... a short little recap of the universe or kind of an orientation episode. So that's where I started. And that was helpful for me because that's sort of where I got into it. I

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was hoping that it would be helpful for new listeners. Although the episode after that and half my episodes, I try to make completely standalone. And any sort of connections are the sort that If you know, then you'll get a little, it's an Easter egg. You'll get something else out of it. And if you don't, then the story should have a beginning, middle, and end, and something that you can enjoy and see if you like it.

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I've listened to a few episodes trying to get myself oriented to your world, and my very first question is, Nate, where does all your rage come from?

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This is my safe outlet because I'm a very geniable person, I think. I'm pretty chill. I'm very even-keeled. There is just something... Writing horror is something that I've done since childhood. It's like a roller coaster. It's a nice, safe way to get thrills or exercise demons.

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Two different things. They're getting thrills and exercising demons. But you're five years old and you come home with a story and you present it to whoever it is who looks after you and says, here's a story of someone whose head fell off. What is your first attempt at horror storytelling? What does that look like? Put us there.

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It all got started because of Stephen King, which is no surprise to anybody in the last few decades. The movie Cujo, I had only seen the trailers because I'm I think I'm eight or nine but they re-released the book Cujo to tie in with the movie and I'm going grocery shopping with my grandma and I see it and I somehow talk her into buying me the book Cujo when I'm nine and I read it in two days and I learned all these bad words and all these adult situations it's not even a good book but it really intrigued me like Partially because I knew that I shouldn't have been reading it, but that made me interested in writing the sort of stories where it'll give people that feeling. Like, oh, I shouldn't be reading this, you know?

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Yeah, my first Stephen King book was Pet Sematary. I'm not... Oh, my gosh.

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Yeah, and very nihilistic,

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too. I will keep my Stephen King to Four Seasons. Like, I love Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption, although I do think I read Misery. So you read Cujo. And then what's your trajectory? How did you get where you are?

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I played around with writing for a long time through school. And Josh, no, I knew instinctively that my parents wouldn't like it if I brought home something really gross. Also, I didn't start at that point of being really gross anyway. I just worked on it for a few years. In middle school, I won a writing contest where I I wrote about a mummy that ended up being a vampire. They just thought it was a mummy.

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As you do.

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I had some success with that. I ended up getting a writing scholarship to a community college. Focused on journalism for a long time. Went to school for journalism for a while. Didn't graduate for journalism, ultimately. Wrote for the Gainesville Sun for a number of years. kept working on my horror writing because even if I wasn't gonna do anything with it, that's what I have to do. That's the writing that I love. So I did movie reviews and columns and feature articles for a few years, but always worked on my stuff. Eventually I had an all ages horror novel published called The Strange Tale of Hector and Hannah Crow. This was a few years ago at this point, not too long after my daughters were born. And I wanted to do something spooky that wasn't gross or adult, you know, all ages horror to no sales or success. I'm glad I do it. I'm proud of it. From there, I worked on horror short films for a while. I wrote scripts. We even shot a feature locally off$1,000 we raised off Indiegogo. All of this ended up leading me towards my podcast, which I approach like every episode is a movie, only it's one I can do all myself. All the different stages I've gone through of my horror writing have really led me here, and I feel I'm doing the best creative work that I've ever done.

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It's good, man. It's good. And I enjoy how you vary the tone from one episode to another.

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Of course, I'm going to go back to certain things. There are certain notes that you have to hit in horror, but I try to never do the same story twice in a row. I want there to always be that variety.

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So you've got this world. Do you have somewhere in your house like a bunch of papers connected with red string, you know, trying to keep track of this world that you're constructing? How do you do that?

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Documents, timelines, and I just live in it a lot, so I've I remember a lot of character details, but I have several documents I can go look through for dates. If I suddenly need to know exactly how old someone is or what year this terrible thing happened in, I go look that up. Also, whenever possible, I stay vague as to a specific detail, you know, in case I need to fudge it later.

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He looks like a man. He had

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eyes. Although when it comes to that, in this format, where I'm telling a story and then somebody is, like reading a book, making the mental images in their head, I try to describe, especially people physically, I describe them very lightly. If at all possible, unless there's a reason to say the race of a character, I won't say the race of a character. I won't specify if they're blonde or if they have black hair or something. I'll give a couple of sort of general details so that people can come up with their own image of what these characters look like. which I hope will make it more relatable. If somebody envisions a lot of these characters as African-American, okay, that's fine. It doesn't impact the character at all.

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Theater of the mind. I mean, that's the magic in it. You know, that's the beauty of it. That's an old art form.

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Yeah, and that's just a little thing that I can do that you can't get away with in movies or TV. It's easy to fill in a lot of those blanks yourself, I think.

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But you, in your mind, I would assume, or maybe I shouldn't assume, do you know what these characters look like to you, yes or no?

SPEAKER_02: 8:59

Oh, yeah, absolutely. You know, a great example is recently we were talking about the episode La Kendra did, The Devil's Night Ride Along. The main character, the 14-year-old girl, Cynthia, she's a young African-American. She's been in several episodes, and I've never once mentioned this. La Kendra, I had envisioned the dispatcher being an African-American female. It's not specified, but she did end up working... with the voice that I heard in my head.

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From a storytelling aspect, your use of words other people's voices and your use of music and just ambient noise really makes for a really round story. But I also have to tell you, I love listening to your voice. Like there's this weird, like soothing slash creepy sound of your voice when you tell the story that's really it's engaging.

SPEAKER_02: 9:52

Thank you. I mean, that was that was also a process doing it over time. I've sort of gotten more locked in on when I'm telling a story, my cadence. And it's funny, sitting here having an impromptu conversation, I find myself pausing and going, which I don't ever do when I'm recording. Like I said, I get sort of locked into it.

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What non-horror writers do you draw inspiration from?

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There is a writer named Joe Lansdale. Recently, some of his mystery novels were turned into a TV show called Happen Leonard. He made his bones as a horror writer, but then started doing westerns and very quirky. East Texas dramas. He's very focused on this one area. So he does a lot of genre writing. He does a lot of non-genre writing. Sometimes he incorporates the two. So above all else, though, he's got this real folksy homespun style that just works. And I like that. There's another writer named Andrew Vox. who writes very hard-boiled crime fiction, probably written 25 or 30 novels at this point. He's terse. You know, he tells a story in as few words as possible. So stylistically, he's excellent. Those are two of my bigger influences.

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He sounds like a cross between Hemingway and Elmore Leonard, I guess.

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Yeah, definitely more in the Elmore Leonard. Elmore Leonard's another... great writer.

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How much of yourself do you put into your characters, do you? Is there any character you've written where you've intentionally poured more of yourself into that character?

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Once upon a time, yes. As a younger writer, I would definitely use writing as a catharsis. other characters representing different people that were important in my life, characters representing me. Now, it is never that intentional. Everything comes from me, and so I try to recognize and own that. That's a great way to make any character more authentic, is to figure out what I can relate to about that character. And even the bad guys, try and make them as compelling and when possible sympathetic. But no, like currently there isn't a character on the show where it's like, yeah, yeah, no, that's totally me.

SPEAKER_01: 12:21

Besides La Kendra's character, of course. Of course. Have you ever written anything or written in order to put on the podcast anything that in retrospect, you said, man, I can't believe I went that dark.

SPEAKER_02: 12:32

It's never snuck up on me. There have been a couple of moments where I have to really consider, is it worth it? Is it worth going this incredibly dark? Is there a reason for it? I do get gross and over the top sometimes. Hopefully never without purpose. I'll give it a purpose if it really needs one. There is an episode called Cemetery Smith where the teenage girl that is the protagonist of that one ends up suffering some pretty horrific abuse. to make sure that nobody thought I was doing this for entertainment purposes, I had my wife, Jamie Lee, record a series of inserts about this is how you get in touch with rain, name-checking important organizations on how to deal with it because the point of the episode was there's this local town boogeyman, Cemetery Smith, that everybody's afraid of. The real bad guy is her father. And then the boogeyman... ends up being pretty nice. So if I do go really dark, usually I want to have a good reason for doing so.

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There was that thread of the father abuse in the Devil's Night Ride Along. Is that the same character or not the same character?

SPEAKER_02: 13:48

That is not the same character. And I was very careful in that. On my Patreon, I do a series of video discussions about every episode. For that one, I thought it was important to note that at no point did do I ever even insinuate as to what the father had done to earn the wrath of his daughter? It can only be a very short list of things, yes. But since I had gone down that road before, I knew the specter would be there, but I didn't even imply that there was any sort of father-daughter abuse. Although, admittedly, it does seem kind of likely. That character does feel justified in getting this revenge on her father, so who knows? Also, I guess that's a great point you bring up. That is a very personal, special topic to me, abuse in our country, particularly towards children. I feel very passionately about it. So it will come up time and again, partially because I deal in a world of horror. And this is one of the very real things that contributes to a world of horror. Kids being damaged and then growing up to be damaged adults.

SPEAKER_01: 15:03

One of the last episodes I listened to was the gunny sack races. And there's a bit in there, if I'm remembering correctly, about children. And actually, it's again, if I remember correctly, children are given the chance to kind of strike back

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with that one in particular. I wanted to. like tease, oh, something bad's gonna happen. And then like the best possible outcome came and the kids ended up laughing and cheering, you know?

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So it's interesting because I, For my job, I work in teacher education, but I've spent the past two to three years living kind of in a trauma-informed space. So I've written a couple courses on trauma-informed care for infants and toddlers, trauma-informed care for preschoolers. I've done a lot of infant and early childhood mental health work, and I'm also into true crime. And so it's really interesting. to see that thread that really there are very few people who are really born evil. Now there are genetic things that play into it, but really what we are looking, I mean, if you study serial killer after serial killer after serial killer or monster after monster after monster, you're going to see incidents of really extreme childhood abuse or neglect or, you know, emotional, physical, sexual, whatever. So it's, Yeah, I mean, it's a really good and solid point that you make, that this is where the bad guys under the bed come from, right? And how we raise our children.

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One of my upcoming episodes that I'm really excited about is a character that has appeared twice, an identity thief and serial killer who is just this horrific villain. So... In this episode, I wanted to do three moments from her life, three different conversations she has as a small child in the middle of her life and then on the last night of her life that would give such insight as to how she turned out that way that I'm hoping by the end of it, everybody's like, well, yeah, she's evil, but I get it. I understand why she turned out that way. It's an endlessly fascinating topic to me. I have demons and nightmares and supernatural things that cause evil, but really, we cause our own evil.

SPEAKER_00: 17:25

And you're treating it in a way, though, that acknowledges it and hopefully opens up people's eyes even just a little bit to thinking about that. So I have a question. So what is your real boogeyman? What is your thing that you're really scared of?

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The only thing that really... terrifies me personally as a paterfamilias, either something happening to my family and being powerless against it. What doesn't keep me up nights, but something that I keep in mind is there's a history of alcoholism in my family. And there is a way for you to be the villain to your own family and never even realizing it. Several of my favorite horror movies play on like those sort of themes because the family is the most important thing in my world. And from everything I've seen from you guys, it's the most important thing in your world too.

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Well, from what I know of your family, you're doing it well.

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Can we maybe tiptoe to like a more fun way of asking that question? Apart from these existential things, what actual– My thing, I mean, I'm not even ashamed. I don't care who knows it. I turn to jelly around snakes. Snakes are my thing. I cannot stand snakes.

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I mean, I would say spiders, and I know that spiders aren't insects, but there's something so grotesquely alien about spiders and insects that I don't like them from a distance. But if you're ever... Somebody posts a close-up of some gross spider on their news feed and I see it. It gets me. It's grotesque.

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Yeah, spiders are mine. And have you ever had the experience where you smash a spider and all the hundreds of babies come out?

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Oh, for God's sake. What's wrong with

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you? Because I have had that and it's awful and I wanted to burn down the house. The

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nightmarish experience.

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I, and I've also made not wise choices for myself. Safety wise. I, I remember in high school or college, I don't remember one driving home like at 12, one o'clock in the morning and a spider, like the arachnophobia kind, the like white spindly leggy ones went crawling across my dashboard. I, my dashboard, I pulled into an empty grocery store parking lot at like one in the morning and got out of my car and just stood there. Like, By myself in the dark in the middle of nowhere. Much more dangerous than actually being in the car with the little spider. But yeah, no, I get it. I feel it. Why are you making that face at me?

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Because clearly you're not there. So at what point did you sack up and get back in the car?

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I mean, I think I killed it. I

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never would have thought that I would say rats. But a couple of years ago, there was a rat in the attic. And when I saw it scampering up into the attic, I just got goose flesh, and literally the heebie-jeebies, just seeing this rat gave me this visceral, physical response.

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If we want to kind of trace it back to what we're talking about, there are several things that either scary movies or books that I've read have made me afraid of because of how they are presented, and rats are an example, simply because of the penultimate scene in 1984 by George Orwell. Do you know what I'm talking about? The encounter with the rats in Room 101? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now I can't do rats because of that.

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game time we are going to play how much random horror movie knowledge do you actually have so on a scale of one to ten how confident are you feeling in your random horror knowledge

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eight

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zero i'm gonna get exactly none of these right okay cue the creepy music

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All right, let's go. What is Jason's mother's name in Friday the 13th?

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Pamela Voorhees.

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Look at you. Josh, did you know that?

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No, get

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out of here. In which original franchise Halloween film is it revealed that Laurie Strode, is that how we say this, is Michael Myers' younger sister? I think that's

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Halloween 2.

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You are correct. In which U.S. state does the first A Nightmare on Elm Street take place?

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It's

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either Ohio or Indiana. I'll say Ohio. I would say Michigan myself. Michigan.

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Ohio is correct. Michigan is one of the choices, but Ohio is correct. What is Leatherface's family name in the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre franchise?

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Oh, you say it. What

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is it? He's right. Sawyer.

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Yeah, I was going to say you say it and I'll recognize it.

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In which, oh, I don't do Saw films. In which Saw film does John Kramer die?

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Saw III.

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Yes, sir. What is Candyman's weapon of choice?

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His hook hand.

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Yes. What is the year, if you get this without a choice, I'm going to be so impressed with you. What is the year listed on the photo in the final shot of The Shining?

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That I don't know. I'm just taking a wild guess, 1939. Here

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are your choices. 1921, 1926, 1934, 1950. This is easy.

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This is easy, Nate. Come

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on. What's wrong with you? This is easy. This is the one thing I know.

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21. Joshua?

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Go ahead. What's the answer?

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21.

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Right. See, that's what I was thinking.

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How did you... What is the name of... I

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just guessed.

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So I have been... to the outside of that hotel. Nice. Oh, gosh.

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Nate, where's that hotel?

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Isn't it in Colorado?

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It is in Colorado, and I'm trying... Estes Park. Estes Park, that's where it is.

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And Nate, what year did Amanda go to that hotel?

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No. When did I go to the hotel in Estes Park? They do a Shining tour, but I'm not that brave. It

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was the first movie that terrified me as a child. I don't know who let me watch that, but that was a scary one. It's still a scary one. scary.

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Yes. What is the name of the demon in The Exorcist? I

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would like to use a lifeline phone a friend. Pazuzu.

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Yes, sir. Which of the following horror movies was not loosely inspired by serial killer Ed, is it Gein?

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You can't wait. You gotta

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give him the choices. I'm gonna give him the choices. I'm scrolling.

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Oh, Nate, which one of the movies that

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we're not gonna read to you? Which one of these movies in front of me that you don't know? I can

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make a guess.

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Psycho, Silence of the Lambs, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, or Midsommar.

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Midsommar. Midsommar.

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Did you see Midsommar?

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I did. And I would have named those other three movies as being the choices that were based on Ed Gein.

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Nice.

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Jamie is actually going as Danny, the main character from Midsommar for Halloween. It's got the flower crown and a white dress. Oh,

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that's so creepy. I read the Wikipedia article. This is where I get my horror knowledge from. I read the Wikipedia articles when the movies come out. Our 13-year-old wants to see Midsommar, and I'm putting my foot down.

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It's extremely intense.

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All right, in Scream, what is rule number one on Randy's list of rules for surviving a horror movie?

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Don't talk about Fight Club.

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Nope.

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I will need to hear the choices on that one.

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Don't split up. Don't say, I'll be right back. Don't have sex. Don't make jokes about the killer.

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Don't have sex.

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Yep, that's it. And actually they do say, they do make the point of don't say I'll be right back. That's like a big part of the movie, but that wasn't his number one. What three words does Ash need to remember and pronounce correctly, which he fails to do in Army of Darkness?

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Klaatu, Verada, Niktu.

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Okay, Nate wins all of the BuzzFeed quizzes ever. Because I was like, I'm not even going to be able to tell you these choices because I can pronounce zero. In

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other words, you don't know then, Amanda, what classic black and white sci-fi movie that's a reference to.

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No, Mr. Show-Off. What is it? Show-Off.

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Horror podcast man is literally killing me at this game. And yes, the game segment, I've got your tricks now. All games are designed to lower my self-esteem. And now I figured out how this one is. So yes, I'm showing off. The Day the Air Stood Still. Such a great movie. And the name of the robot. Such a great name. Like a ridiculously great name for what's supposed to be a menacing creature. It's called Gort.

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That's a silly name.

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Gort is just the silliest, dumbest, trying to be menacing name I've ever heard. It's like one of the Teletubbies is Gort.

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And finally, this is a visual, you have to look. And I actually knew this because of a Wikipedia article. Why are these people doing this?

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Wait, can you, this is not a visual medium, so you're gonna have to describe

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what the picture is. Okay, I'm gonna show him. It's three people standing in what looked to be the horror mass the Halloween children trick-or-treated in in the 1800s, staring at this couple. Why are they doing this? Do you need your choices?

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When those three killers are asked by their victims, why are you doing this? They say, because you were home.

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Yep. That's the choice. Is that the, like the.

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The strangers is the name.

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Okay. And they just like, just went to find a house. Like they just, is it based on a true story? I feel like it might be.

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It's so vague that, sure, it could be. It's basically, it's very vaguely drawn, but three bored teenagers found an isolated house. It's terrorizing. Cool. For kicks.

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Yeah. Yeah. They were probably in quarantine for a really long time. It's

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terrifying for that nihilistic reason. You know, there's no reason for

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it. We want to make sense of things and we want to... to have a reason why and why it couldn't happen to us, right?

SPEAKER_01: 27:41

Yes, and that leads me to this question. Why do these games keep happening to me, these soul-crushing, self-esteem-stealing games? Perfect, perfect for October, I guess. So, Nate, thanks for joining us for today. How can people find you? And by you, I mean your podcast.

SPEAKER_02: 27:59

They can find me anywhere that has podcasts. I'm on iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, Pandora. There aren't a ton of podcasts on Pandora, but I'm there. And of course, recently, Amazon Music slash Audible.

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And on Patreon too, right?

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You can find A Scary Home Companion on Patreon, where there's a couple of pretty amazing intro videos to sort of set the table for what the show is about and see if you're interested in supporting it. But honestly, before I would... want anybody to go check out the patreon i would want them to listen to the show because may not be for you but it may really be for you

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it's true thanks nate for spending so much time with us we really look forward to hearing what else is going to happen in your world and thanks for coming on our show

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and you will be on my show the pair of you in an upcoming episode which is scheduled to released the day after Halloween.

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Yeah, I can't wait because you sent us our part, but of course I have no idea what the rest of the story is, so I can't wait. I

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only have this very specific little information that I really want to know everything else. So on November 1st, All Saints Day, check out The Wilsons on A Scary Home Companion. Well, it's lovely to hang out with you, and we cannot wait for the world to get back to some sort of safety so we can get all of our Imagineville friends together in person and... toast the network that we've created and the friends that we've created.

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That sounds amazing. I look forward to it.

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That's Super Familiar with the Wilsons for today. Our theme song is by Silva de Alegrija. It's called Una Mañana Dorada. All other music is by Andrew Wilson. Check out our podcast feed during the week. This release is on Monday. And then Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday mornings we have a little short mini podcast that right now we're calling Super Familiar with the Morning with the Wilsons until that becomes arduously long and cumbersome and we call it something short like Fred. So... Until tomorrow morning, until Fred, I'm Josh. That's Amanda. See you soon.

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Bye. you