Super Familiar with The Wilsons

Family Rituals, Perimenopausal Rage, Snow Globes with Goats in Them

Familiar Wilsons Media Season 6 Episode 40

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We explore the profound importance of rituals in building connection with loved ones while navigating the complexities of perimenopause and our changing social world.

• Rituals creating emotional safety
• Post-church chicken and Friday movie nights 
• Turning extroverts into introverts
• Head pressure, rage episodes, and social withdrawal 
• AI Stress

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Speaker 1:

Familiar Wilson's Media Relationships are the story.

Speaker 2:

You are made of meat, my friend, all the way down.

Speaker 1:

The following podcast uses words like and and also. If you're not into any of that shit, then now's your chance Three, two, one run.

Speaker 3:

I'm super familiar with you. Wilson run. I'm super familiar with the Wilsons. Get it.

Speaker 4:

Welcome to Super Familiar with the Wilsons. I'm Amanda.

Speaker 1:

And I am Josh, and usually we record on the morning on Sundays, when the church bells indeed are ringing. But we are recording right now in the afternoon on Sundays, because life just got in front of us a little bit.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, and I didn't expect the church bells to ring out loud in our bedroom and that's why I sounded like I was asking a question about who I am, because I'm confused.

Speaker 1:

Podcasting should be a statement, not a question, and my statement to you, amanda, is rituals.

Speaker 4:

Satanic ones. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1:

what I am talking about is the importance of rituals the importance of rituals with your partner, your loved one and also your family. And I know that a lot of family rituals have kind of gone by the wayside because of social media, because people would rather, instead of having dinner together in the dinner table, they'd rather sit separately and scroll on social media or all sorts of things that they do. But the reality is that ritual is really important. If you take one thing from this episode, it's that that rituals with your families and your loved ones is really important. In fact, research says that rituals create emotional safety and predictability. Regular shared activities, even small ones like weekly check-ins or morning coffee, build connection and reduce stress. Couples with shared rituals report higher relationship satisfaction. Rituals serve as micro anchors during chaotic times. Family rituals are linked to lower rates of adolescent anxiety and higher resilience. Jesus, it sounds like I really did my homework here.

Speaker 4:

I know I'm glad you brought the research. That's good.

Speaker 1:

So rituals? Did you grow up with rituals in your family?

Speaker 4:

Yes, but they were all really based around church, right, because that was just the thing, that it was every Sunday morning, every Sunday night, every Wednesday night, but the things I mean. So we went right, it was habitual was a thing, but every Sunday after church it was either drive through KFC and get a bucket of chicken, it's so country. You never got a bucket of chicken after church.

Speaker 1:

No, I did not.

Speaker 4:

Or we went to Morrison's Cafeteria. Do you have Morrison's where you put the tray down and you go through and you get like the mayonnaise salad or the jello salad.

Speaker 1:

There was a Morrison's Cafeteria in Miami. I don't think I ever went there, and also gross.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, a mayonnaise salad and I liked it, but it was just lettuce chopped. Lettuce chopped tomatoes mixed with mayonnaise.

Speaker 1:

Mayonnaise was like the predominant ingredient. Yes, that's really fucking disgusting. I liked it that mayonnaise was like the predominant flavor in that whole thing.

Speaker 4:

It's like having a bread sandwich. Bread salad is a thing.

Speaker 1:

Bread salad is not a thing it is.

Speaker 4:

It's like an Italian salad. It is.

Speaker 1:

I reject the idea of bread salad with my whole chest.

Speaker 4:

Anyway, if it wasn't Morrison's, if it wasn't KFC, it was Ryan's Steakhouse. Did you have a Ryan's?

Speaker 1:

No, feels like that's just a guy. Just a guy who rented out a property. We had Steve's Pizza in Miami. I don't know Steve, I don't know Steve, I don't know Steve, from anybody Steve's Pizza was freaking good, but the whole time I was like this is just a guy named Steve who decided to make some pizza.

Speaker 4:

No, ryan's Steakhouse it was a chain because there was one here in Gainesville, but I mean it closed super early in the 90s. Ryan's Steakhouse it was counter service.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 4:

So you'd pay for your steak at the counter, but then they would bring it out to you and was it like shoe leather?

Speaker 1:

Was it just really disgusting?

Speaker 4:

Well, I never really got the steak. My mom was really big into this and I got it too. It was the Hawaiian chicken. It was basically just a grilled chicken breast with a piece of pineapple on top of it.

Speaker 1:

So stupid.

Speaker 4:

But I liked it. I would get a steak every once in a while, but I would always get it well done and then I'd want like A1 with it and my dad was like, listen, a good steak should not need steak sauce.

Speaker 1:

Well, already you're getting it well done, so you are ordering shoe leather.

Speaker 4:

Yes, what's the point of all that? Well, because my mom had me terrified of bloody foods.

Speaker 1:

But that's not steak. At that point it's a meat flavored coaster. It's a charred memory of something what once mood. It's like buying concert tickets and wearing noise-canceling headphones. It's awful. Yeah, go ahead, roll your eyes.

Speaker 4:

Anyway, and they had the yeast rolls with the cinnamon butter. Those were good.

Speaker 1:

That sounds good. We should do a show at some point just rating the best pre-meal bread that has ever existed through restaurants.

Speaker 4:

Oh, I know mine Hands down, know mine right now.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you would say Macaroni Grille probably.

Speaker 4:

Absolutely, because it's almost like a focaccia really airy, super crusty and crispy, with the sea salt and the rosemary on top. So good.

Speaker 1:

What was the one place? It was a brewery.

Speaker 4:

Hops, hops.

Speaker 1:

Hops had such amazing because they had these really light, very flaky biscuits and they're croissants, were they? Okay, but they didn't look like croissants at all. Maybe it's croissant dough yeah but, and they had this delicious, basically pure cane sugar that they like a glaze, oh my god so freaking good yep, yeah it was really good.

Speaker 4:

So rituals sunday like meals after church. My mom was like I'm not cooking after church. She would only cook after church on Easter and Christmas. Right, Because nothing would be open on Christmas Eve. And the other ritual is that we would do Friday night pizza and renting a movie.

Speaker 1:

Now we had Friday night pizza at my place we would get like Steve's Pizza or something but the ritual really wasn't that for me. The ritual for me is that the next day we would have two or three pieces left over, my dad would wrap it in foil and he would heat it up in the oven and that pizza tasted so much better than the pizza the night before.

Speaker 4:

Well, steve was not doing it right the night before. No, he did it right because it was better. And so to me the ritual wasn't the Friday night before.

Speaker 1:

Well, steve was not doing it right the night before, no, he did it right because it was better, and so to me the ritual wasn't the Friday night pizza, it was a Saturday lunch pizza.

Speaker 4:

Oh, interesting. So we would get Pizza Hut pan pizza, which I've told you I tried to recreate and it just like that crust was so good. It was so good, but that lives squarely in the late 80s, like that's not a thing that exists right now for pizza hut, or we, every once in a while we do little caesars when they would have the pizza pizza in one box, so you'd have the two pizzas in one box. Do you remember this? Okay, this is an audio um medium. You're just nodding your head because I'm drinking my cocktail.

Speaker 1:

Please continue okay, so.

Speaker 4:

So Josh remembers that. But mostly we would get Jay Burns pizza. I don't know who Jay Burn is. It was the letter J and the word Burns Jay Burns pizza.

Speaker 1:

Maybe his name was Jay and he's just burning the fucking pizza.

Speaker 4:

No, but it was the first time I had experienced like super thin crust and he would cut it into squares, right. It was like a circle pizza but cut into squares. It was magic. I don't know what it was. The sauce was great and they also had the tabletop, like Mrs Pac-Man and. Galactica or whatever, while you were waiting.

Speaker 1:

See for me. The first time I experienced tabletop video games was at Godfather's Pizza in Miami.

Speaker 4:

I never went to a Godfather's, ever ever.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, no, that's what I associate. I don't even remember what their pizza tastes like, but they had like the Pac-Man tabletop games and stuff.

Speaker 4:

And then we would go down the street to the video. I don't remember what it was called. It was a video rental place in a single wide trailer.

Speaker 1:

Yes, you've talked about that before on the show right.

Speaker 4:

So I'm from polk county. This is a thing. If you're not um a floridian, it's square in the middle of the state and it's got some some country in it and you would just get whatever. Do you remember how, when you would rent at blockbuster, there'd be like the copy with the picture on the front and then the copies behind it? Yeah and then if there were no things there, then you were just out of luck, like right, right Right.

Speaker 4:

And that was it. And we'd go and we'd rep movies on a Friday night, but we did not go behind the beaded curtain.

Speaker 1:

How did you have a beaded curtain in a double wide?

Speaker 4:

No, it was a single wide friend.

Speaker 1:

Okay, you could not have it unless it was in the little bathroom stall. I don't know the bathroom stall is where he had the seven naughty it was there and we weren't allowed to even look near it.

Speaker 1:

I didn't have a lot of rituals as I was growing up, but I look back nostalgically on the things that did mark my days or my weeks, and it's important that we have those things now, and, I think, particularly now, because we are entering in that phase where everyone is kind of working like hell. Everyone's just working so hard and the future is uncertain. Is AI going to take our jobs, is it not? We need to make sure to retain our connection and our humanity through all of this, and one of the ways that we do that is build these rituals into our weeks that have to do with connecting with other people.

Speaker 1:

Now, I'm not talking about waking up and then you do 10 pushups and then you go about your day. That's not the kind of ritual I mean. I mean something that you do 10 pushups and then you go about your day. That's not the kind of ritual I mean. I mean something that you do with someone else. So, like you and I, we have the Saturday morning going to the farmer's market here in Gainesville, getting our coffee, getting our egg sandwich and sitting and watching people. That's our ritual and I've come to really, really look forward to that. Like that's one of the things like. As I'm slogging through Wednesday afternoon, I'm like ugh this week.

Speaker 1:

I'm like well, at least Saturday is coming and we're going to have that thing that we do, and like this this is a ritual that we have weekly, and I so look forward to actually sitting and talking to you about things.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, because Josh doesn't talk to me throughout the rest of the week. He won't say anything to me until we record it's because I'm an introvert and I only have so much energy and I need to save it for the people.

Speaker 4:

But rituals are very, very important yeah, and I think it's important that we build them with the kids, because I think we had started them and then, because we were doing saturday night movie nights and we were doing themed dinners with them, whatever we were watching with the kids, and that kind of fell out I don't know if, because that was pre-COVID, so I don't know if it was COVID, I don't know what happened, but that fell off for us.

Speaker 1:

Well, also look, if you're a parent, you understand. Like your kids, they go through stages. They're growing up, they're developing their individuality, so something that was cool with them before isn't necessarily cool with them as they grow up. However, it's important that we still find different things if that's going to be the thing you know.

Speaker 4:

But I'm finding now that it's cyclical because Muffy now is 18 and going to move out in August and go live on the campus of the university and is starting to really, I think, sort of mourn that will. She will be leaving and so last night she said can we do family, family movie night? And then she wanted a themed movie like so we watched star wars and made wookie cookies.

Speaker 1:

We watched star wars and windrup was so not into oh god, he hated it so much he hated star wars. Whose son is this? Because, because he absolutely hated it and like that's kind of the age. I was maybe slightly older when Star Wars came out and it was so captivating to me and we didn't even show him the original Star Wars. We showed him the Star Wars with the updated CGI. He didn't give a shit.

Speaker 4:

He did not care. He was watching the stormtroopers, pew pew, pew. And he looked at us and he said how is this appropriate for children? Oh God, why are you letting me watch them kill people? So he was. We were like fine, you can leave the room because you're making the rest of us miserable, but you have to read or draw, like you can't get on another screen somewhere.

Speaker 1:

So he went and he drew. Our eight-year-old son is 75 years old. What can I say?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, but I mean he is sick today, so maybe he was getting sick and just wasn't feeling it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know. Now it's time for our perimenopause update. Now we have created a little character for Amanda's perimenopause journey and that is the delightful Irish lass Perimenopause. So Perimen turned to me the other day and she said Josh, she said I think that I am now an introvert. So that was cute. We were in the middle of a group of people and folks. I am here to tell you that throughout our relationship I've relied on Amanda to be the extrovert in social situations. And we were at a party and she was not having it and she turned to me and says I think that I'm now an introvert. And I am here to tell you I panicked, I panicked, I'm not ready, I'm not ready to take up the role as being the outgoing one in the relationship.

Speaker 4:

I mean I am heretofore an extreme extrovert, not even like extroverted Like I am an extreme extrovert, not even like extroverted like I am an extreme extrovert. I will talk to anybody, I will talk to everybody, I will socialize, I will carry the social weight. I have zero problem with it. And we were, we were at a party and it was people that we just barely know. We know them, but not like super well, we didn't know anybody else there. I could not have gotten further into the couch corner. I mean I was so uncomfortable. I mean they were lovely, the food was good, like they were very kind and welcoming. I was just so uncomfortable.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's definitely a question of like it's not you, it's me, type of thing.

Speaker 4:

It was a hundred percent me.

Speaker 1:

So did you, did you like? Was there any sort of like? Oh shit, like I'm changing were you mourning the fact that you're losing that.

Speaker 4:

No, it's no mourning, I just don't want. I, I like, I just don't want to be around people. So I was texting with a friend of mine who was also on this journey and I said do you find that paramenopause is making you more introverted? And now this person is naturally an introvert. So she said I don't think that I could get more introverted. However, I don't want to leave the house for days. So, and then I started looking into it and it is definitely a thing where people don't want to socialize has a lot to do with your changing hormones and your changing moods, and I just, I just don't, I just don't. And so I said you know, we were at this place with new people and her response was oh, no, new friends, no, new friends. Like. I can tolerate the friends that I have, but I don't want new ones. That takes more work than I think that I have the emotional capacity for right now.

Speaker 1:

I just think it's super interesting because, yes, you are changing and I wrote up a little thing here. It's a little skit that I wanna do with you. I've just texted it to you.

Speaker 4:

Oh.

Speaker 1:

Lord. And so what I wanna do is I want you to read the parts that says Amanda says, and then I'm gonna take the. I'm gonna don't read ahead, don't read ahead, lord, this is long. That's what she said. I'm going to take the parts of your paramount apostles.

Speaker 3:

Internal dialogue, your internal dialogue.

Speaker 1:

And you just need to tell me if I've got it right or if I've got it wrong Right. Right, Because I'm all about trying to empathize and one of the things don't read ahead.

Speaker 4:

You're reading. I'm reading the first sentence.

Speaker 1:

Okay, do the Amanda says and I will do the Amanda thinks, and you tell me at the end of this if I've got it right or if I've got it wrong. It'll be a learning thing for me. All right here so here we go, so we're at a party. Here's Amanda standing by the cheese board swirling a glass of Merlot, like it might explain the point of all of this to her. Amanda says, smiling.

Speaker 4:

Oh wow, what a beautiful charcuterie board. Martha, you always go above and beyond.

Speaker 1:

Amanda thinks.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, martha, we get it. You studied abroad, in Italy, and now you think stacking cured meats makes you a cultural ambassador. I'm impressed, really.

Speaker 1:

She smiles with her lips but not with her eyes, which have turned into slits of battlefield focus. She's counting the minutes until it's socially acceptable to leave 28 by her last check, 27 now. Amanda says.

Speaker 4:

Oh, I'm just going to pop over and say hi to Susan. I have not seen her in forever.

Speaker 1:

Amanda thinks.

Speaker 3:

If I don't walk away from this mansplainer in the fleece vest, I'm going to start reciting the US Constitution in reverse, just to drown him out.

Speaker 1:

She navigates the room like a submarine commander, avoiding enemy sonar. Her internal thermostat is set to hellfire and someone turned the music up so loud she can feel her ovaries recoiling Amanda says to Susan cheerfully oh, I've just been feeling a little, I don't know off lately Hormones, you know. Amanda thinks.

Speaker 3:

No, susan, you don't know. Your hormones are still hosting brunch and doing pilates, while mine are flipping tables and hurling chairs at the dj. I'm one unsolicited opinion away from growling but amanda keeps smiling.

Speaker 1:

She plays the part, she's gracious, composed the picture of handling it. Meanwhile, inside there's a full-scale insurgency.

Speaker 4:

Amanda says Of course I read the group text. I just wasn't sure what Sparkle casual meant.

Speaker 3:

No one knows what it means, karen. It's a cry for help disguised as a dress code. I'm in stretchy pants and a blazer, and if that's wrong, then fuck it, so be it.

Speaker 1:

Eventually she makes it to a quiet corner pretending to check her phone.

Speaker 4:

Really she's watching the door like a hawk when the uber app says five minutes away, her shoulders drop a quarter inch.

Speaker 3:

I hate to leave. This has been so much fun. I will be in bed with a fan blowing directly on my face in 17 minutes and not one of you fuckers can stop me.

Speaker 1:

Godspeed to the rest of you and with that amanda vanishes like a hormonal phantom in the night, trailing a faint scent of lavender and righteous fury Scene.

Speaker 4:

It's all true. It's all true. I am. My internal temperature is hellfire. That's true. I don't know what Sparkle. I am here for a themed party. I don't know what Sparkle casual is. That would piss me off. I wouldn't know what Sparkle Casual is. That would piss me off. I wouldn't like that. So I've started following a content creator on Instagram, right, and her name is let me find her. Hang on one second. I had her and then she went away. So she's a digital creator. Her name is Melanie Sanders. Her Instagram handle is just being Melanie.

Speaker 4:

She is the founder of the we Do Not Care movement and that is for our perimenopausal and menopausal women, and every day she does an update about what we do not care about, and it's so good. But the one thing that I was going to tell you about it's really interesting because I'm learning now about symptoms that I have that was like oh gosh, I didn't realize that was a perimenopause symptom. So I had commented on one of her most recent posts and now we have a friend who gets like thousands of likes on her comments on these posts. I got six and I'm OK with that, like I'm not viral, but I Well. The first one was that somebody she was talking about we do not care. And I said something about the rage and how I can't even stay sane on team's calls at work anymore because people's voices make me angry. They don't annoy me, they make me angry. So other people were saying, oh, the rage is real and they're commenting. So it's kind of like this little community of like we all see each other Right. So she's doing one of her updates and her husband, bless him, wanders into the scene and she just turned around and was like get out and so and the comments were just like all of us hushing him at one, like all at once, like this poor man, and she was so much just like I love him, I don't, I wish him well, but I just I don't. I wish him well, but I just I don't even want to be around the dog, like I just want all of the people to be away from me.

Speaker 4:

So somebody was talking about their symptoms and they said the head pressure. For about six months I have been feeling like really and I think I've mentioned it to you a lot of pressure in my head and I thought head right, and I thought is that allergy? Is that, you know, the weather changing. Apparently it's a freaking perimenopause symptom where, when your hormones change, you get damn pressure in your head, like you are ascending or descending in a plane, and I want to know why.

Speaker 4:

Why, when the great creator, or the matrix or whomever you believe in, was like we're going to make these women and they're going to be awesome and they're going to be able to carry babies, but then, as they get older, that needs to change because we don't want old ladies out here with babies. I don't even know why this needs to change. And then it all starts changing. Why do we have frozen shoulder? Why do we have the thing where it feels like ants are biting you, but they're really not? Why do we have itchy ears? Why does my head feel like it's filling full of helium? Why are these the things?

Speaker 1:

that have to go along with it. Well, clearly you've done something wrong and karma is coming back for you.

Speaker 4:

Oh, I am sad for you, it is not going to go well for you tonight, friend, I'm going to sit back with my wine and I got to tell you so. Like I need to show you this thing and we can put it on our socials, but I'm just going to show it to you right now.

Speaker 1:

Like they always say that, like wine makes perimenopause or alcohol makes perimenopause worse, this is how I feel about it that is, that you're showing me a thing that's the fanfare from, I guess, 20th century fox, but the icon says I don't give a fuck well, because it says you shouldn't drink wine.

Speaker 4:

It only make your perimenopause symptoms worse. And then that just 20th Century Fox says I don't say that word on this podcast. You can say it again.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, I got it. I got it. So here's a question for you, though Are you ever able to pull yourself out of the hormonal haze and still act rationally, like? How difficult is it for you to use your intellect to override your feelings?

Speaker 4:

I mean, I haven't had to yet because you haven't made me angry enough.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. No, you're living this whole ass other life at work and all that stuff. Don't just put it on me, I know I was teasing.

Speaker 4:

I think I'm doing okay because the kids still seem to want to be around me and you still have a job right, I don't it's. I mean, yes, I can pull myself together and do what I need to do, but I'm just gonna be angry inside about it, okay well, when you burst like vesuvius, then please make sure to text me well apparently I'm going to because I have freaking head pressure. My head's to explode at some point in time.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, make sure that you just kind of stand back when that happens, so I don't get anything on me. Don't look at me like that.

Speaker 4:

It's like Gallagher and the watermelon. That's what you need. Just need to wear a raincoat and know you're in the splash zone got it bills keep.

Speaker 1:

I put a post up on the gainesville subreddit and it got a little attention, which surprised me is it more than the six people who commented or who liked my comment? Yes, what comment?

Speaker 4:

On the. I am Melanie people the we do not care, yeah, no, I got 275 upvotes. Nice.

Speaker 1:

Yeah and 54 comments.

Speaker 4:

Nice.

Speaker 1:

Which, on the Gainesville subreddit, you gotta understand it's not huge. It was pretty big and it was very interesting to me. So what I posted was basically saying that I've been thinking about the spaces between us and how our world is advancing and that you should check in with the people that you love. Saying that I was thinking about you show up, listen to them without multitasking, laugh with them, love them and do it before time runs out. Reach out, say the thing, make the plan whatever it is, do it, because the window doesn't stay open forever. My thing wasn't that I was saying that I was necessarily feeling like I needed to connect with this person or that person. It was just I was doing a little bit of self-assessment but then I was saying, hey, folks out there in Gainesville connect with each other. And I got a lot of responses and I was really kind of surprised because I didn't expect that many responses.

Speaker 4:

Let me ask you a question. I want to know about your responses. But so, first of all, this was a post, not a comment on another post.

Speaker 1:

It was a post.

Speaker 4:

Okay, did you get any negative responses?

Speaker 1:

Oh yes, I did. Why? Because people, first of all. I think people misunderstood the reason why. A lot of people were giving me advice on how to connect with people, and that wasn't the point of it. The point of it was for me to remind people how important it is to do that. But people were like, oh, you should go hang out downtown, or you should go do this, or why don't you go do that? One person was like hey, you want to hang out, you want?

Speaker 1:

to hang out sometime have you made a friend? I like the outdoors video games, exercise, talking, trying different sports, etc.

Speaker 4:

Is this a female?

Speaker 1:

I don't think so I'm not going to read their. No, it's a male appearing person on their profile picture.

Speaker 4:

You made a friend.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I kind of felt bad because I did not do that in order to hang out with people.

Speaker 4:

No, but now see, that's your extrovert. You're in your extrovert era.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know about that, but a lot of people were commenting how they thought that Gainesville was a shithole, which I did not appreciate and not the point. Some people commented on how people are strange and they were just gonna keep to themselves.

Speaker 4:

I mean, they're not wrong. People are weird.

Speaker 1:

I'm with you, says "'The older I've gotten, "'the more introverted I've become. "'during COVID, when people were upset "'about not being able to be around other people, "'i was probably wearing an Ew People T-shirt "'and enjoying myself by myself at home'".

Speaker 4:

I don't know about enjoying themselves at home.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, I just thought it was super interesting. I didn't expect it. I did not expect it and still getting comments as well.

Speaker 4:

How long has this post been up?

Speaker 1:

12 days.

Speaker 4:

Nice, yeah, see, you have a whole nother life. You don't tell me about. This is the first time I've heard about this post people.

Speaker 1:

Right, because I was saving it for the podcast jackass.

Speaker 4:

Well, we podcasted less than 12 days ago.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it didn't get response immediately. My thing these days has been people. You need to go connect with each other because, our world is about to change drastically and the connections you have with other people are going to be critically important for you surviving. I don't know if people are paying attention to AI and how many jobs that's gonna take away from people and how that's gonna upset our apple cart. It's gonna be staggering, Staggering. We have people who do jobs.

Speaker 1:

Now that is basically just data pushing those jobs are going to be gone because you're gonna have the people who do jobs now that is basically just data pushing. Yep, those jobs are going to be gone because you're going to have the people who are very rich deciding that in their companies this can all be handled by AI and guess what?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, and that's going to go wrong.

Speaker 1:

Go ahead.

Speaker 4:

Because you and I both know we leverage AI enough in our work that it is not infallible.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, ai is trained by human beings and the data set that it pulls from is just human input. And I have had AI lie to me. I have had AI present to me data as if it was true. And then I asked it to cite its sources and it said oh well, just kidding, I did this one thing where I was asking for an analysis of something in my industry and it gave me it spit out a fact, and I said, okay, well, great, cite your sources so that I can do my own research.

Speaker 1:

It says well, this is all based on anecdotal evidence. I'm all like okay, give me links to the anecdotal evidence. And it couldn't do that and it basically finally admitted oh well, I don't have that.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, like, where the fuck did you get your stats from? Then mine tells me when, when I know it says something wrong, because I use it to help me. I don't use it to research for me, but I will upload like five articles and say synthesize this for me, and it will say something that I know is not true. And then I will tell it that it's not true and it'll say, oh, you're absolutely right. Thank you for that. I don't need it to sound human.

Speaker 1:

But it's gonna.

Speaker 4:

I don't need it to.

Speaker 1:

I don't know why we think it's gonna be better than us, because it's just basically a mirror reflection of us with more access to information, but the information it has access to is information that's been entered by flawed human beings, so we're screwed. I don't even remember what the initial point of this segment was.

Speaker 4:

You need to connect with people, because AI is coming for your jobs apparently. Yes, or connecting with people. Like I go out and facilitate with teachers and you speak with large groups of people vets and veterinarians and things like that. Like those are things that we still are gonna need humans for.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, right, yeah. So connect with the people in your local community, because you're going to need to rely on them. You're gonna need to network with them and don't think that social media or that AI is going to be your key to connection and the future, because it's not.

Speaker 4:

that's all I'm saying welcome to our comedy podcast.

Speaker 1:

You keep saying that you keep saying our comedy podcast is a life podcast. God damn it. Josh's Haunted Shit Parade.

Speaker 4:

Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to Josh's Haunted Shit Parade. I'm going to read you three things, three objects, and you tell me which is the most haunted.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

And this might be a regular segment and it might fucking not be. I do not know.

Speaker 4:

Well, you're saying the bad words a lot today.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's okay, though, because I've held back in the last couple of podcasts and now I'm getting my spleen out here and then I'll go back to being nice, the next podcast, right?

Speaker 4:

If this is your first time listening to us, please understand that it usually isn't this egregiously cursi, but apparently today it is.

Speaker 1:

It is. That's why. Okay, so three objects, and you tell me which one, in your opinion, is the most haunted. All right Number one a snow globe with a goat inside of it.

Speaker 4:

Oh Lord.

Speaker 1:

Number two, a Furby that only says not again, oh my God. And number three, a lava lamp that only works when you're deeply sad.

Speaker 4:

Are these real things, or is one of them a real thing?

Speaker 1:

No, they're all real things, but you tell me which one you think is more haunted.

Speaker 4:

I think the damn snow globe with the ghost inside of it is the most haunted.

Speaker 1:

Goat, not ghost goat, I meant goat, I meant goat.

Speaker 4:

Goats are scarier than ghosts.

Speaker 1:

Are. They Are goats scary to you.

Speaker 4:

No, I want a baby goat so badly. But you said the goats have the demon eyes.

Speaker 1:

They do. They've got like their irises are horizontal, like horizontal bars, and that is scary as shit. I can't deal with that.

Speaker 4:

Eyes scare you though, right.

Speaker 3:

Huh.

Speaker 4:

You're scared of eyes being weird, looking like, like eyes that are just white or something with no it's interesting because, like I'm, a painter right and.

Speaker 1:

I paint portraits and the thing I'm convinced that, the thing that is it that gives life to a painting, is how well you can do eyes.

Speaker 4:

Yes, and you're very good at it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and so you can take like a glob of shit, right, like you can take like one of these little shit emojis and if you paint realistic looking eyes at them, it all of a sudden gives them like that's terrifying.

Speaker 4:

Don't ever do that. I'm gonna. No, thank you.

Speaker 1:

So eyes are, yeah, eyes give life. And weird freaky eyes in movies freak me the hell out. So you would say that number one a snow globe with a goat in it is the most scary.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So you're saying that the Furby that only says not again is not traumatizing?

Speaker 4:

Listen, Furby and I have a history. So I was teaching in the late 90s when Furby was a thing and apparently a child had brought Furby in, put it in their cubby. I didn't know it. And then I was in the room by myself putting out the nap mats because it was preschool, and then all of a sudden the damn thing started talking. It scared me so much. I took Furby to the director's office and said Furby has to be in here for the rest of the day.

Speaker 4:

Furby got in trouble and had in-school suspension because I couldn't deal with it. So the Furby saying not again, it doesn't scare me, it's happened.

Speaker 1:

You just take it and the lava lamp doesn't scare you at all.

Speaker 4:

Well, lava lamps are scary because they can catch on fire, not because it just turns on.

Speaker 1:

when you're sad, you've never had a lava lamp. I was scared of having one because I heard they exploded.

Speaker 4:

No right. That's why I didn't have one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay, so you say that the snow globe with a goat inside of it is the most haunted thing?

Speaker 4:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

All right, well, there you go. I'd say the Furby, but this isn't my game, it's your game. So there you go.

Speaker 4:

Oh wait, is there not a story behind them?

Speaker 1:

What? No, I mean that makes it more haunted. All of a sudden you have a Furby that's in your house, right, and it just says not again.

Speaker 4:

I thought there was going to be a story behind which one of these was actually haunted.

Speaker 1:

No, it's for you to determine. I don't like this game. It's for you to determine.

Speaker 4:

It's not a game.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it is.

Speaker 4:

No, it's not. This is an opinion. This is not a game. There's a right or wrong answer.

Speaker 1:

What if the Furby knows the goat and there's a connection in their stories.

Speaker 4:

And then the goat gets sad and the lava lamp comes on. I don't know. Do you remember how you used to say that the most terrifying thing to you in the middle of the night would just be a child laughing?

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes.

Speaker 4:

So more a kid laughing than the Furby.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes All right.

Speaker 4:

Is that it? Is that the whole game? That's the whole segment.

Speaker 1:

yes, this is dumb, love you.

Speaker 4:

This is the dumbest segment you've ever done.

Speaker 2:

Pocket watch, ticking constricting coat and vest, marking moments, sparking movement, making minutes, never giving rest. Marble floor receiving every leaving, footfall and beat, echoed rhythm driven and given by onward shuffling feet. Flip, flop, drip, drop. The faucet weeps its count. Every splash, a second past, every slipping, dripping, drops, amount.

Speaker 1:

No one likes to be told what to do and now's the time, in the podcast, where we tell you what to do, amanda. What should we do now?

Speaker 4:

I'm still stuck on this thing. That wasn't a thing. I don't know. I didn't like that. I don't like that at all. Haunted things are scary. I don't like it.

Speaker 1:

That wasn't a game have you ever encountered a haunted thing?

Speaker 4:

okay, so I don't like sleeping in rooms with mirrors and we've talked about this before in the podcast. But if you're new to the, my brother died of brain cancer when I was 11. And he had a different dad than I did. And after my brother died, the house phone rang Remember, we had house phones and it was my brother's dad and he said to me I saw your brother today and I thought he met my other brother and I said, oh, yeah, no, he was here earlier. And he said, no, no, I saw John, which was my brother that died. I saw him in the mirror. Okay, then I could not sleep in a room with a mirror that I could see into. If there was a mirror in the room had to be no light, because I was terrified of looking in a mirror and seeing something Not necessarily my brother, but just looking in the mirror and seeing something Terrifying to me.

Speaker 4:

Still.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm over that, but for a really long time. So when did you lose that fear?

Speaker 4:

we've been in hotel rooms since that yeah, I mean I I mean like probably in my 30s, but I carried it for a really long time, because I was 11 when he died like I carried it for a long time. Anyway, I was in my early to mid 20s. I was dating a guy I don't know, like an hour or so outside of town and we had gone to his grandmother's house for like Christmas or something, and so I was staying there and I was in a room by myself, but it was clearly like a room that was an add-on, like maybe it was a porch that they enclosed because there was a window in the room and I was trying to sleep Because there was a window in the room and I was trying to sleep I have to sleep with the light on Like I'm terrified, and so I pull the curtain back to look to see what. I guess it was like a junk room and there was like a scary doll like stuck up against the window just like staring at me. I can't. No, I had a really hard time sleeping for a long time.

Speaker 4:

I don't do haunted stuff. That's not okay with me. We're not doing that.

Speaker 1:

And now's the time in the program where we tell you what to do, Amanda. What should we do?

Speaker 4:

Oh, I had it, and now I forgot.

Speaker 1:

What recommendation do you have for us?

Speaker 4:

No, I had one and I totally forgot, because this is another symptom of perimenopause. It's just brain fog, or you're just forgetting halfway through a sentence what you're talking about.

Speaker 1:

All right, well, I have a recommendation then. I recommend that you go ahead and subscribe to the 100 Things that we Learned From Film podcast, because I am gonna record with Mark Plant, who is one of the wonderful gentlemen on there next weekend. For his, I don't even remember. I think it's Sex and Lies and Rock and Roll, or Truth and Lies and Rock and Roll something about that where we're gonna talk about a specific rock song or rock group. And what did he say, jesus?

Speaker 4:

I'm not. I didn't know you were gonna. You never tell me anything.

Speaker 1:

Well, I saved it for the podcast.

Speaker 4:

I didn't know you were doing this. My recommendation is find yourself a anything. Well, I saved it for the podcast. I didn't know you were doing this. My recommendation is find yourself a partner who actually talks to you.

Speaker 1:

Facts and lies, and rock and roll is what it's called.

Speaker 4:

And.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to record with him next weekend.

Speaker 4:

Have fun.

Speaker 1:

So go ahead and subscribe to 100 Things we Learned From Film. And he has this little extra podcast when his partner, john Watson, is out of town, which John will be. John's going to Canada and he's.

Speaker 4:

What the hell, John? Why are you going to Canada? Well, never mind. I was going to say not the US, but I know why.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we know why. Alright, so go ahead and subscribe to 100 Things we Learned From Film and hear me on that. That's my recommendation. Do you remember yours yet?

Speaker 4:

I don't remember mine, but I just want to take this second to say it's June 1st, so happy pride to all of our friends.

Speaker 1:

Happy pride. Happy pride to everyone, really To everyone.

Speaker 4:

The best pride. So we've had some really good pride experiences. We've been in New York during pride and that's been pretty great. I've been in Houston during pride With Jeffff, with jeff right and I was with the kids in london for pride and that was so freaking amazing yeah, so there you go wherever you are. That's my recommendation. Wherever you are, go celebrate pride bam.

Speaker 1:

All right, amanda. That's all there is. There is no more. What'd you think of that mess?

Speaker 4:

I mean, I'm still angry about many things, but I'm okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you're going to be. It's going to be a thing that lives in our lives.

Speaker 4:

I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay.

Speaker 1:

All right. So this episode is super familiar with the Wilsons, with Made Possible by the following completely real, definitely not made up. Individuals Antonio, thanks for helping us forget the parts that never make sense. Josh Scar, for always knocking twice and never asking why. Daniel J Buckets for archiving the dreams we pretended to have. Chicken Tom for installing mirrors on the dark side of the moon. Monique, for translating trauma into tasteful anecdotes. Joey, joey leo for keeping secrets in alphabetical order.

Speaker 1:

Refined gay jeff for serving looks and subpoena worthy embellishments that's right mark and rachel for remembering just enough to make everyone uncomfortable, and dan and gavin for building the illusion and then charging rent to live inside of it and also you know who we haven't shouted out in a while.

Speaker 4:

I want to shout out Colin Robinson oh.

Speaker 1:

Colin Robinson, but then there's also Rogue Rogue Rogue Executive producers on this podcast have been the Echo in the Closet, the Ghost of a Deleted Text and the Dog who Knows Too Much.

Speaker 4:

What about the goat in the snow globe?

Speaker 1:

No, goat Tune in next week when we reveal why did Gavin file the paperwork and why did it smell like licorice.

Speaker 4:

Oh God.

Speaker 1:

All right, so until next week, y'all have fun.

Speaker 4:

Go be kind, bye, bye, bye.

Speaker 2:

Pocket watch ticking constricting coat and vest, marking moments, sparking movement, making minutes, never giving rest. Marble floor receiving Every leaving, footfall and beat, echoed rhythm driven and given by onward shuffling feet. Flip, flop, drip, drop. The faucet weeps its count. Every splash, a second passed, every slipping, dripping, dripping, drops, amount Adding to the ledger. On the edge of liquid time we lose, heart keeps hammer, timing, praying hang off your dues On mortal meat machinery, muscle finery.

Speaker 2:

I go recharging my batteries at the winery as I'm pacing and spacing and marking out its span with the percussion of existence and distance since this whole thing began, blinded by the traffic lights Blinking and the red Rhythm in the rainfall on the rooftops overhead, with the pendulum's persistence and the metronome's refrain, all keeping perfect time, whether holy or weather profane, the whisper of the wristwatch To the thunder of the drum. We're all just keeping time Until we find our time has come. Clock tower calling, falling, stalling, never once for breath. Brass bells telling, swelling, dwelling on the dance with death Chiming, climbing up the spire, marking sacred hours.

Speaker 2:

Down below, the people go buying, throwing down funeral flowers, tick tock, brick block building, time in stone. Every corner, every border, walking time alone. Shadows creeping, people sleeping through the slumbering, numbered night. Dawn will break the stark black darkness, bringing truth to final light. Seasons wheeling, dealing, feeling their eternal turn, spring's beginning.

Speaker 2:

We are winning lessons that we learn. Summer's blazing, autumn's grazing on the dying year, calendar pages, sages, ages, crystal, crystal turning clear, breathing, spacing hearts, embracing rhythm of the blood. Breathing, spacing hearts, embracing rhythm of the blood, pulse and flowing, ever knowing times, relentless flood, lungs expanding understanding. Breath is borrowed time, every exhale tells a tale of life's uncertain rhyme. Digital display, night and day glowing, green and bright numbers changing, rearranging darkness into final light, finally beating, completing circuits of the hour, modern timing, ancient chiming times, electric power, from the whisper of the wristwatch to the thunder of the drum, from the cradle to the grave. We're keeping time till kingdom come. Every heartbeat, every backbeat, every breath we draw, marking moments, sparking movements In time's perfect law, all creation keeping time and rhythm and rhyme, until the final measure, when we rest beyond all time.

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