Heated Rivalry, Cold Zambonis, And A Kid Who’s Bored

What happens when the person talking sounds confident but the body has other plans? We notice the glitch. We don’t fix it. We build around it.

This episode wanders through identity slippage, energy math that no longer adds up, and the quiet renegotiation of how we show up for each other when the old rhythms stop working. There are new rules (gentler ones), abandoned expectations, and a few experimental side paths involving rooms, routines, and people gathering for reasons that are… intentionally unclear.

Somewhere in here: a reframe of support, a resistance to forcing vibes, and a belief that ritual still matters—even if the instructions got lost. There’s parenting in the margins, health as a relationship instead of a checklist, and the radical idea that small, kind habits might be enough.

No answers. No hustle. Just a slightly surreal conversation about building a life that fits better than the one you were handed.

Listen. Or don’t. But if you do, bring a friend and your weirdest tiny habit.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Cold Opens, Yearbooks, And KIT
• 3:20 Awkward Photos And 80s Hair Disasters
• 5:35 Perimenopause, On-Mic Roles, And Friction
• 9:17 Side Quests And Rethinking Community
• 12:10 Not A Church: Ritual Without Dogma
• 14:36 Show And Tell At The Pub
• 17:12 Poetry Nights And Supportive Spaces
• 19:09 Home Reset: Rooms By Intention
• 21:10 Easy Habits And Morning Movement
• 23:00 Losing A Longtime Doctor And Motivation
• 26:10 Support Rules: Praise, Not Policing
• 28:05 Parenting Boredom And Natural Consequences
• 30:00 Hockey Romance, Comfort TV, And Joy
• 32:10 Gratitude, Shoutouts, And Sign-Off

Transcript

SPEAKER_03: 0:00

Familiar Wilson's Media. Relationships are the story.

SPEAKER_00: 0:06

You know what? Being a Zamboni driver would be the perfect perimenopause job because it would be cold all the time and quiet and nobody would talk to you.

SPEAKER_02: 0:15

The following podcast uses words like and and also woo. If you're not into any of that shit, then now's your chance. Three, two, one. Run. Super familiar with Welcome to Super Familiar with the Wilsons.

SPEAKER_00: 0:37

I'm Amanda.

SPEAKER_03: 0:38

And I'm Josh, and we're the podcast about marriage 2.0 with kids.

SPEAKER_00: 0:42

And all those side quests.

SPEAKER_03: 0:44

And yet again, we are coming to you late because we were side questing.

SPEAKER_00: 0:48

We had side quests.

SPEAKER_03: 0:49

And we will get to that in a second. But Amanda, I have a question for you that has been keeping me up nights.

SPEAKER_00: 0:55

Oh, is it like, what is the point of life? Why are we all here?

SPEAKER_03: 0:58

No, it's are yearbooks still a thing?

SPEAKER_00: 1:01

They are. Why is this a thing you're wondering about?

SPEAKER_03: 1:04

Well, because I was thinking about it now, like the whole thing about yearbooks when you were a kid is like you're getting everyone's signature, and it was like kind of a cool thing, like how many kids can I get to sign my thing? And they always did that KIT Keep in touch. Keep in touch. Although for the longest time they'd write KIT and I didn't know what the fuck that meant.

SPEAKER_00: 1:24

So you didn't kit with anyone?

SPEAKER_03: 1:26

I didn't kit with anyone because number one, they didn't leave me their phone number. And number two, I think that it was just like a twitch that people would do because I was not a popular kid, and I'm quite certain that Melanie Edwards and some of these other people did not want me to keep in touch.

SPEAKER_00: 1:39

Wow, but you pulled that name out real fast, didn't you?

SPEAKER_03: 1:42

That's I think where the the first time that like I saw KIT and I didn't know what that meant. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:48

Well, I why are you looking at me now?

SPEAKER_03: 1:49

I said Melanie Edwards, and you're just you're giving me the side eye.

SPEAKER_00: 1:53

I'm gonna go check your friends on socials and see if Melanie Edwards is there.

SPEAKER_03: 1:58

She is not, although I've been looking for her.

SPEAKER_00: 2:00

Oh well, Melanie K I T, if if you're listening.

SPEAKER_03: 2:04

Um D K I T is what she really meant.

SPEAKER_00: 2:07

Oh, don't give it. I thought you're spelling, I thought you were spelling another word for penis. Anyway, um Jesus. I was like, wait, you spelled that wrong.

SPEAKER_01: 2:18

Yeah, baby, come get my D kit. My big old D kit.

unknown: 2:22

What's wrong with you?

SPEAKER_00: 2:24

Yes, yearbooks are still a thing because I think they're like a thing in the elementary set, though, more because those kids, for the most part, don't have phones, or like half of them have phones, and it's still a big deal because Winthrop is already like, can you pay for my yearbook before this deadline in February? Because it goes up to$45 or something. And right now it's$40, and he is really wants me to get this$5 discount. But also, he counted last year how many pictures he was in, and we didn't even order a yearbook, which means he found a yearbook and went looking.

SPEAKER_03: 2:53

That's where where he fell short then because he found the the yearbook, but somehow didn't make it home. Right. So that's a failure on his part, I think. But that was my original point now that kids have social media and all that. What's what's the point of yearbooks? There's no novelty to having interaction with people because you're freaking interacting all the time.

SPEAKER_00: 3:11

I don't know. Maybe it's nostalgic in a way that they're gonna, you know, go to college and then come back and look at their yearbooks. Although, when's the last time you looked at one of your yearbooks?

SPEAKER_03: 3:20

Oh no, I avoid my yearbooks because I looked like a freak. Like I j oh my God. So there's this one picture that I took in middle school. I had just gotten glasses, and I I guess I I don't know how clueless I was, but I decided to take the picture with my glasses on. And they looked stupid, right? But then also my hair was doing this strange thing where I had a lot of product on it. It just looked like one big piece of hair, like going all the way around.

SPEAKER_00: 3:49

Like a Kendall, like just one big plot.

SPEAKER_03: 3:51

No, because Kendall, at least it was in the shape of a haircut. Mine was just all even all the way around, like as if I was wearing a brown inner tube on my head.

SPEAKER_00: 4:01

What year was this?

SPEAKER_03: 4:02

It was like sometime in the 80s. I don't know. I'm not gonna look back my senior picture. It is the only picture that I look good.

SPEAKER_00: 4:10

It's handsome. It's handsome. I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I was just couldn't wait to tell you how handsome it was. Um, it's also for whatever reason hanging up in our garage. Is it still your senior picture was hanging up in our garage for a while?

SPEAKER_03: 4:21

Did it have dart holes in it? I'd never seen it.

SPEAKER_00: 4:24

I don't know, I don't know why it was there. I don't think it's still there. Anyway, the reason I ask what year it was is because your yearbooks are downstairs on our bookshelf, and I want to go looking for this hair picture.

SPEAKER_03: 4:34

Yeah, well, the inner tube of hair. No, because I don't want you to have that vision. Just like I think I'm pretty sure that there's like pictures of you from when you were a kid that you don't want me to see.

SPEAKER_00: 4:44

You have one up on a bookshelf of me with my overbite and like the bangs that took over my whole face and like the the wing thing that we used to do in the late 80s, early 90s, where we would pull our hair out with a round brush and spray the mess out of it with rave or aquanet and then blow dry that mess so that it just we had the wings here and the you have I found that picture and showed it to you like, oh my gosh, this is awful, and you put it up in our bedroom. So don't tell me that you want me to not have an image.

SPEAKER_03: 5:23

Why haven't you taken it down if you don't like it?

SPEAKER_00: 5:25

I can't reach it. You put it on top of the bookshelf.

SPEAKER_03: 5:29

That's right. Five foot three, my love. So anyway, I was just wondering if yearbooks were still a thing. Apparently, they are in the younger set.

SPEAKER_00: 5:37

Who knew? Winthrop.

SPEAKER_03: 5:39

And a big pivot here. I want to ask those of you who listened to last week's episode if you noticed that there was something off about the episode. Uh and well, yeah, I I kind of alluded to it, but I'm gonna show everyone behind the curtain here. So last week we were recording, and I was doing I don't even remember what we were talking about. I was doing some bit or whatever, and you just kept responding negatively and you weren't having it. So much so that we do you remember this? We stopped the recording and you didn't like that I stopped the recording. Um, so we started again and we got through the episode, but the whole episode I was just thrown off.

SPEAKER_00: 6:22

Because I got grumpy at you?

SPEAKER_03: 6:24

Because the effects of perimenopause turned you read carefully, turns you into a different type of Amanda. This is not your favorite version, no, it has nothing to do with that. It's just that look, I it's no secret that when we podcast, when anyone podcasts, you know, they they play a version of themselves. Like I'm not as grumpy and as cynical as I come off on the podcast um sometimes. And you are like you you have a certain niche, a certain role.

SPEAKER_00: 7:05

What is it? Like delightful. So I'm not delightful.

SPEAKER_03: 7:08

The delightful wife who like finds everything about me charming and funny. And so that's that's kind of how I plan what we're gonna talk about and my expectations of the energy coming back from you. But when you are the grumpy one, like I have nowhere to go.

SPEAKER_00: 7:27

Okay, well, first of all, you know what I'm saying though?

SPEAKER_03: 7:30

It's like we can't both be grumpy because we no one wants to listen to the unfunny Statler and Waldorf podcast, okay?

SPEAKER_00: 7:37

So you dated yourself with that reference. Yeah, absolutely. The youngins don't know that.

SPEAKER_03: 7:41

Um, but I just had nowhere to go and I wasn't prepared to pivot to be the nice one because like that takes a lot of practice on my part.

SPEAKER_00: 7:50

Okay. All right. So, first of all, I don't play a role in being the delightful wife who finds you funny and charming. I actually find you funny and charming in real life. Because a lot of times I'll I'll say, like, oh, like I'll laugh at something, you're like, it's just because you, you know, find me charming, whatever. But perimenopause, it doesn't decide when it's gonna wake up and be awful. Like it just it chooses the day. And so it wasn't my role that I was playing when away. It was just that perimenopause that day was filling me with rage and I was getting annoyed. And and I'm sorry that this has impacted your ability, but you don't have a uterus, you don't have ovaries, you're not not making hormones anymore. And so if I could somehow be of service to you in the trying time of my body to make you feel better and be more comfortable and not thrown off, I will do it.

SPEAKER_03: 8:43

Thank you. That's all I ask. Why now, why have you leaned back away from the microphone, shaking your head? And like, what's that all about?

SPEAKER_00: 8:55

Because I'm just one I'm I'm hoping for all of the letters that people are gonna write in.

SPEAKER_03: 8:59

So the letters, by the way.

SPEAKER_00: 9:00

Kate, I need a letter.

SPEAKER_03: 9:02

Okay, yeah. So let me let me sort out for you all the P.O. box that you can send that letter to. Well, I'm glad that we sorted that all out. So the reason why, oh, were you about to say something?

SPEAKER_00: 9:15

I was gonna say you're rotten. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03: 9:16

Yeah, okay. So the reason why we haven't podcasted and released, like on the regular day that we do it on Monday, is because we have been going down the rabbit hole of side quests. It's one of the things that that I have, I won't say New Year's resolution because I don't believe it in New Year's resolution, but it just so happens that around the first of January, I decided, let's let's do some things a little different than we've been doing. Um, and one of them is is just us getting out of the house and having experiences and doing it like on weeknights, not just on weekends.

SPEAKER_00: 9:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_03: 9:51

So we went to a meeting at a friend's house who it wants to start like not a church, doesn't want to start church, but a gathering of people to talk about deeper things of life, and and this gathering of people, they aren't bound to a specific religious viewpoint.

SPEAKER_00: 10:14

Okay, you you say not a church, but are you sure you don't mean cult?

SPEAKER_03: 10:18

I don't think that any of us have the energy to to put into a cult, and that also like requires there to be like one leader, yes, and I don't think that that's the vibe of this group either. So it could be like a low effort cult by committee, but but no, it's just a bunch of people, well, not a bunch, it wasn't, it was like a 10 people around the table who were just looking for deeper connection, and that's what it is. And for a lot of us around the table, that that deeper connection came from our religious upbringing, but we're not necessarily interested in all of the baggage that may come with organized religion and attempts for humanity to make institutions, so we did that. Uh that's good good commentary there.

SPEAKER_00: 11:08

No, okay. Well, part of me is really distracted because what I that I I'm I'm having a moral and ethical dilemma.

SPEAKER_03: 11:15

Oh, what's that?

SPEAKER_00: 11:16

Well, the dog is finally quiet, yes, but he's chewing on a pillow.

SPEAKER_03: 11:21

Okay, so grab the pillow from him. We'll wait.

SPEAKER_00: 11:24

But I know that it annoys you when the dog so like this is where I am. Like, do I upset you or do I upset the dog? Like I'm having to choose. Whose pillow?

SPEAKER_03: 11:31

Is it my pillow?

SPEAKER_00: 11:32

Actually, he's not chewing on a pillow, he's chewing on our comforter that's on the ground.

SPEAKER_03: 11:36

Okay, um, well he stopped.

SPEAKER_00: 11:38

He's licking his paw.

SPEAKER_03: 11:40

Okay, very good.

SPEAKER_00: 11:40

Okay, uh, but that's where I was. I was having a moral and ethical dilemma. Um what did you ask? So confused. So confused.

SPEAKER_03: 11:53

Dear listeners, I hope that you're listening with with better uh attention to uh what I'm saying than Amanda is right now. I was wondering what you think about this whole thing about uh you know trying to find a replacement for the institution of the church.

SPEAKER_00: 12:10

Well, I I find comfort in ritual, I find comfort in routine, I find comfort in structure. And so um I having having grown up in the church and then no longer having that, that's been difficult for me, but I also cannot get behind uh the Western Christianity at this moment, uh particularly um evangelical American. I can't, America, I cannot do it. And so I'm I'm interested in having a space and a place that takes up what that was. I just don't want it to be like the early service. My mom always wanted to go to the early service, like the church I grew up with. Did you guys have two different like times?

SPEAKER_03: 12:51

Dude, the the the church that that we were last in also had three different times. You were in like four at some point. Yeah. Because they had uh five, because they had an afternoon thing, they had three morning things, and they had a a midweek thing.

SPEAKER_00: 13:05

Oh, no, no, no. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the morning one. I'm talking about so in my church growing up, it was either 8:30 or like 10 45, and that one went to noon. Okay, and the 8 30 one went until 10. Okay. Um, but then when there was also evening on Sundays and Wednesdays, like those aren't the times I'm talking about. I'm talking about you were expected. We I was expected Sunday morning, Sunday night, and Wednesday night. There was no option. No. And if I didn't go Sunday night, I got a lot of guilt thrown my way from my mom. And so I just mean I don't want whatever we decide to do, can it just be like not 9 a.m.?

SPEAKER_03: 13:44

Well, one of the people who was at that meeting held an event last night at the Bulls, which is one of my favorite bars in town, owned by friend Jacob. By the way, if you're in Gainesville, check out this bar. It's a cool little bar slash pub slash art venue. This event that that our friend Colin threw was called Show and Tell. I didn't know what to expect from it. I knew that it was some sort of thing where people came and they they told stories, right, from their lives, um, anecdotes or whatever. So we gathered up my two older sons, and you and I went to this event. Super cool, and it was kind of like a community gathering that meets the need of like what this what this meeting was.

SPEAKER_00: 14:37

Yeah, but it only happens once a month, right?

SPEAKER_03: 14:40

But so how this event went, folks, is we got there, Colin got up, he introduced, he welcomed everyone, he introduced the the topic, which was sleep, and then he let us all in like one minute of just clearing all the negativity out of us. So he said, I'm gonna count to down from three or whatever he said, and everyone just started to grumble and moan and groan and complain and get all the negativity out. So everyone did. And I thought that that was interesting and and like a cool experiential thing. And then he got up and he talked about sleep and talked a little bit about research around sleep, and then he started to invite people to come up and tell an anecdote or a story that had to do with any aspect of sleep.

SPEAKER_00: 15:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 15:30

And then after everyone was done, he would like reflect on it. Sometimes he would change the conversation to go in a slightly different direction. Like at one point, we started talking about dreams, and and people got up and told a story. You and I both got up and told an anecdote, and my older son Daniel got up. I was very proud of him for doing that because I don't see him as naturally liking to do that, but I think he had a really good time. All that is to say that cool, interesting experiences like that, that's all I'm looking for. Yeah. Because it's not like we're going and seeing live music and we're all just kind of passively looking at it. It was like a community thing where everyone was learning about each other. And uh, for that matter, the poetry nights I've been going to, same deal. Same deal. People are getting up and just sharing parts of themselves. That's all I want.

SPEAKER_00: 16:18

And they feel really supportive. Like, I mean, I yeah, I would worry about like what are people gonna think or whatever, but it feels like a very supportive environment.

SPEAKER_03: 16:26

Yes, not the judgy thing that you get at church, at church, right?

SPEAKER_00: 16:30

God, that's a really good point.

SPEAKER_03: 16:34

So I would much prefer to have my things that I go to to ponder the deep aspects of the universe and also make deep connections with people.

SPEAKER_00: 16:43

Have Guinness available?

SPEAKER_03: 16:45

I and have Guinness available. So freaking ludically, I'd prefer it to be a pub, to be honest. It's interesting. I I'd wonder if any of our um our British friends view the pub like that kind of gathering place, like a church almost. Pub culture here isn't the way it is in in the UK by any means. Um, first of all, the no dogs are allowed in bars uh around here. So I do wonder if pub culture kind of takes that third place uh fills that niche in in the UK and in other places. Another not really New Year's resolution that I had was to get our house in some sort of order. And I'm approaching it a different way this time.

SPEAKER_00: 17:27

All right, so I'm really appreaching preaching in a preaching, yes.

SPEAKER_03: 17:32

Okay, we were just going to church again.

SPEAKER_00: 17:34

I'm really appreciating how you're approaching it because it feels like it's gonna be more sustainable. So do you talk about what how you're doing this, please?

SPEAKER_03: 17:45

Amanda and I are taking each room and getting a piece of paper, writing living room on the top, and then just saying words that describe what we want the room to be. We want the room to be simple, we want the room to be warm and cozy, we want the room. Nothing about what we don't want the room to be, because too often in life we focus on what we don't want. Well, that's not really how we live life. You don't go into a McDonald's and say, well, see that menu there. I don't want fries, I don't want this, I don't want that. No, that's not you. You pick out what you want from the menu, you order it, and away you go. Same thing here. We write positive words and then we look at the room, we say, okay, what's in the room now? What things do we want to stay in the room? So, for example, in the loft, we have shelves in there. We we didn't say where we wanted the shelves to go, we just said we don't want the shelves in there, and that's as far as we got for that room. We have greatly changed one of the rooms, and we're gonna move on to the next room after that. But it's just a new way of approaching life, and I'm gonna try to approach my entire life that way. Nice is you know, what what positive words do I want to use to describe this aspect of myself, the person I want to be, or this experience that I'm gonna have, and then what are the steps that I can take to make sure that that happens? In other words, how do we want this room to feel? And then what needs to be in the room?

SPEAKER_00: 19:24

I like this. I think that you might be able to market this.

SPEAKER_03: 19:27

I didn't invent this, friend. This is a thing, like these are things that I've picked up from wherever they're already out there, and I don't need to market it. I just need this shit to work from my life. That's all I want. So, anyone need a shelf that used to be in a loft? Because we don't know where to put it. Another not really New Year's resolution is waking up in the morning and doing some sort of stretch/slash exercise.

SPEAKER_00: 19:56

Did you do it this morning?

SPEAKER_03: 19:57

I didn't do it this morning, I did not do it this morning.

SPEAKER_00: 20:00

Did you notice a difference?

SPEAKER_03: 20:01

Um, I did not, but I also caffeined up going to work. I've done it every other morning except for no, that's not true. I missed another morning, but I've only missed those two. I don't plan to miss any more. Although it was interesting, I was reading that research says that after day seven of doing a new habit, the dopamine hit that you get from simply doing the thing that you said that you would do goes away. And then you have to just subsist on willpower until you start to really feel positive effects from it. But anyway, I'm committed to doing it, and it's not like it's difficult exercise, it's more like stretches and twisting and doing high steps and just really easy things. But if I do it consistently, then I'm definitely gonna like see some sort of results from it. So that is my other kind of New Year's resolution that I've stuck with. I'm trying to pick really easy things.

SPEAKER_00: 20:59

Yes. No, you're doing you're doing a I went to the doctor today because I my doctor retired and I had been with her for like 20 years, and apparently she felt like she could retire, and that's fine. She didn't ask me, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_03: 21:10

Do you or do you have any uh emotional feelings about that? I do. Do you really?

SPEAKER_00: 21:14

I do because well it and this was a person who I was with. I mean, I had miscarriages before Muffy. I was with her during my miscarriages. I taught her kids that's how she became my doctor. So like I knew her, I knew her adult children from the time that they were five. Like, I mean, I knew her well. So um, and then and then she retired, and I didn't know she retired until I went to schedule an appointment, and they were like, Oh, she doesn't work here anymore, she retired.

SPEAKER_03: 21:39

Oh God, that must have like you must have felt that she broke up with you. I mean, I was like, What if she quit because of you? What if she told all of her other people, but she didn't tell you?

SPEAKER_00: 21:49

No, that's what are you doing? Why is this why?

SPEAKER_01: 21:52

I don't know what's wrong with me.

SPEAKER_00: 21:53

I don't know what's wrong with you either, but um, when I can't sleep in the middle of the night because I'm now worried about this, I am waking your ass up so that you can process this with me. No, I I kind of got on to my doctor's office about it when they assigned me to somebody new and they said, yeah, um, like the comms weren't really great about that, I guess, or whatever.

SPEAKER_02: 22:12

So I guess she was ready to go.

SPEAKER_00: 22:14

Yeah. Well, and her husband was a surgeon in town, and it's my understanding they retired at the same time. So, I mean, good for them. Good for them. They're in their 60s, good for them. Anyway, I I have just been assigned to kind of random doctors, and so I I did some research, got uh some referrals from from friends that I trust. And so this doctor uh isn't taking new patients, but she's supervising residents. So I went to see the resident today, and it was a two-hour doctor's appointment, like a new appointment transfer of care. But he asked me and was like, you know, what is your goal? And I said, it's really important to me to have an invested relationship with my physician. Like I want to have somebody, you know, I was with somebody for 20 years. I want to have somebody who knows me, knows my history. And, you know, I don't expect you to memorize it. Look at my chart, but you remember from time to time the things that, you know, have been going on. And I really got that feeling with him, and then by extension, her, because she's the attending, he has to go out and consult with her and then come back in. And then she came in. But in that, and we were talking about my weight gain and how, you know, I've gained like 50 pounds since since I had Winthrop or maybe 40 pounds. And there's just been a lot of things, and I haven't been motivated. Like I just haven't been motivated to do anything about it. I actually got into really good shape after I had him, but then COVID happened, and that's really what's been hard. And we were talking about it, but I said, you know, I'm we ordered a meal kit, green chef, and we're making choices on, you know, carb conscious and and calorie conscious, and we cleared out a room so I can start doing yoga again. I'm trying to be more intentional about walking. And I said, you know, for the first time, I feel the motivation to do it, but I am afraid that motivation is gonna go away. Like I didn't say that to them, I'm saying that to you now. So I need you to choose kindness and and and support me, please. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03: 24:07

Okay, so this is a good conversation to have. So when you say choose kindness and support me, that basically means that I praise you when you do well, and that's it.

SPEAKER_00: 24:19

Yes. No, this is that was gonna tell you. This means you do not comment when I'm eating something that's not good for me. You do not comment if I pour a glass of wine, but you do encourage me by saying, Hey, let's go, you know, let's go take a walk together. Or I noticed that you did this, and that's really great. This is what you do.

SPEAKER_03: 24:37

Okay, so I can say, like, I noticed that before you were drinking that wine, you weren't drinking that wine.

SPEAKER_00: 24:43

No, no, no, unless you're happy that I was drinking the wine, because I didn't point out the four guinnesses you drank last night. So we're not gonna point out if I pour a glass of wine, but you can say, let's go take a walk, or hey, if you want to go do yoga, let me hang out and play this this game of Uno with Winthrop, and I can target him.

SPEAKER_03: 25:03

I'll do that. I'll do that. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00: 25:05

Winthrop accuses us of targeting him in Uno.

SPEAKER_03: 25:07

Even better than that is that we can have him do the yoga with us.

SPEAKER_00: 25:12

No, I've tried this. This does not work. I also try the dog doesn't like me to do yoga either because he tries to lay under me while I'm doing things.

SPEAKER_03: 25:21

Yeah, but that's a thing, though. It's like you've heard of like puppy yoga, no. Mountain goat yoga where they climb on you.

SPEAKER_00: 25:26

And puppy yoga is a thing. Muffy goes to puppy puppy yoga.

SPEAKER_03: 25:29

Yeah, but do the the puppies climb on her while she's yogaing?

SPEAKER_00: 25:32

They wander around and go, yay, Muffy. I don't know what they do. Okay, but this joker, no, I don't I I don't want any you can come do the yoga. I don't want any of the smaller people in this house to come do the yoga with me.

SPEAKER_03: 25:45

Speaking of smaller people, we were in the car yesterday and driving to school, and then and Winthrop, I just hear him going, uh That's not good. Now, you know how repetitive noises just do my head in. I mean, I asked. No, can't do it. So I let him do it for a little bit because I was like, oh, he's gonna stop this, but it just keeps going. So I'm like, buddy, are are you okay? Because I I need you to stop. He's like, Oh, dad, I was trying to make a beat.

SPEAKER_00: 26:23

By groaning like a 75-year-old man?

SPEAKER_03: 26:26

Dude, man, he's sampling before he can sample. But I was like, this guy, he's no, we cannot do this. We can't. He does this thing now where he gets in the car and take him to school in the morning because I take him every morning. And instantly, as soon as the garage door closes and we pull out the driveway, he says, Dad, I'm bored. Yeah, it is literally like a 10-block drive to his school, and he cannot stand to not be doing something in that what amounts to about 10 minutes.

SPEAKER_00: 27:01

Yeah, no, I know.

SPEAKER_03: 27:02

I'm bored. I'm bored. I'm bored is the bane of my existence right now. I'm bored. How can that be possible?

SPEAKER_00: 27:09

What should I do? What am I supposed to be doing? Just think, watch the world go by. I can't, that's not fun. That's boring.

SPEAKER_03: 27:14

But the thing is, is he's such a strong-willed kid. Where does this what should I do come from? Really, what he's saying is entertain me, monkey.

SPEAKER_00: 27:22

Yeah, yes, he is.

SPEAKER_03: 27:24

I cannot. So we're like another not so New Year's resolution is like I want to be a better dad to this kid, but like I don't know what to do with that. I'm bored because I freaking I growing up, I said I'm bored to my dad, and he would say, Okay, go clean this or go wash the car. I'd be like, Oh no, I'm fine now. Yeah, look, look at nature, you know. I'll go draw something. So what do I do?

SPEAKER_00: 27:54

I guess we make him wash the car.

SPEAKER_03: 27:56

That wouldn't turn out well for our car.

SPEAKER_00: 27:59

Make him fold some laundry.

SPEAKER_03: 28:01

That would be good.

SPEAKER_00: 28:02

That's we got tons of laundry that needs to be done. He can reach the washer and dryer.

SPEAKER_03: 28:07

That's so brilliant. Okay, the next time he says I'm bored, we need to have him fold laundry.

SPEAKER_00: 28:12

Yep.

SPEAKER_03: 28:13

Oh my god, that's so freaking brilliant. Yeah, you solved it.

SPEAKER_00: 28:16

There you go.

SPEAKER_03: 28:16

Your parenting questions answered here by Amanda Wilson.

SPEAKER_00: 28:20

Get your laundry done and get your children to refuse to be bored ever again. Well, actually, your laundry probably won't be done because they'll they will refuse to do it.

SPEAKER_03: 28:31

No one likes to be told what to do. And now is the time in the program where we tell you what to do. Amanda, what should we do?

SPEAKER_00: 28:39

I mean, it I am advocating that we all go get into the heated rivalry universe. I was not in it.

SPEAKER_03: 28:48

Explain what it is.

SPEAKER_00: 28:49

Okay, Heated Rivalry is this romance series uh about two male hockey players who are arch rivals but then fall in love, right? But it's got a lot of sex. And it was this small time Canadian, I love Canadian television, a small time Canadian show that HBO picked up right before it dropped, and it's become just this like phenomenon. And it's it's low budget, it's um an unknown actors, and it's just it's a beautiful yes, there's hot gay sex, but they're it's just a beautiful love story. Uh Muffy had watched it and was all into it, but then one of my best friends who's you know a year or two younger than me, uh, she really got into it, and now she's like I she's pulled me into it, and it is my whole entire algorithm, uh, that and foster puppies, but it is a lovely escape. Um, and we all have to find these pockets when the world is on fire and of things that that bring us comfort and joy. And for me, it just happens to be gay hockey players. But also, friend Jeff and I, now when I finished the episode, Jeff uh called me and he and I debriefed the the penultimate episode. So if you're interested and you haven't yet, I recommend Heated Rivalry on HBO Max. Thank you, Amanda.

SPEAKER_03: 30:26

All right, Amanda, that's all there is. There is no more. What do you think of that?

SPEAKER_00: 30:31

I think that I wasn't grumpy this time. Was I mad at you? Was I grumpy? Was I mean?

SPEAKER_03: 30:36

You were. We had to stop at one point and you yelled at me for a little bit and then we kept going.

SPEAKER_00: 30:40

I said d no, now you're fabricating things.

SPEAKER_03: 30:43

Do you have anyone that you want to wish a happy birthday to?

SPEAKER_00: 30:47

I do. It's friend Jeff's birthday. Refined gay birthday for Refined Gay Jeff. Um, I hope that you had a fabulous day and know how much you mean to us here in the Wilson household and at Super Familiar with Wilsons.

SPEAKER_03: 31:02

And at some point we'll have Jeff on.

SPEAKER_00: 31:04

Or Jeff and I can have a spin-off um Familiar Wilsons podcast about heated rivalry.

SPEAKER_03: 31:10

I'm happy to edit that for you. Um, there are other people that we would like to thank. This is the Without Whom list. We'd like to thank Antonio, our team captain. He is insists the refs are personally against him. Josh Scarr, the assistant captain, he loses his stick every shift, blames fate. Daniel J. Buckets, the leading scorer, he calls every goal pure luck. It is not. Chicken Tom, he's the enforcer, he skates like a baby giraffe, but hits like a truck. Matt, our utility player, somehow always on the ice when something breaks. Monique from Germany, disciplined, efficient, quietly judging everyone. Joey. Joey. Leo, the rookie with speed, zero breaks, apologies issued mid-collision. Refined gay Jeff, our best dress player, critiques jerseys during intermission. Ryan Baker brought snacks, eight half before puck drop. Mark and Rachel, one plays, one coaches loudly. And Dan and Gavin swear that they were this close to scoring the game winner. Special thanks to the Zamboni, the ref, and the ice. Final score, friendship one, hockey skills zero.

SPEAKER_00: 32:23

Thank you, Zamboni.

SPEAKER_03: 32:26

So until next week, folks, uh, you get on those not really New Year's resolutions and then email us about it, familiarwilsons at gmail.com. I don't give that email address nearly enough. Familiarwilsons at gmail dot com.

SPEAKER_00: 32:42

Go be kind.

SPEAKER_03: 32:44

Bye.

SPEAKER_00: 32:44

Bye-bye.